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Ok I am officially ending the game, sorry that there will be no Grand Finale. None of the Triumvirs except Sertorius wanted civil war. However, the other two guys got absurdly angry at me. One has even blocked me, and imo has begun to take this game way too personally. I don't want to lose friends over a forum game, this is literally the only reason why I am now stopping. Also, a good lesson as to why you keep IC and OOC separate. ....Although in a way I see it as a success I got people to be this emotionally invested in a forum game
gg all, let us now remember the great legends of the roman families
Triumvir Families - these 3 have reached the apex of power, although shared
Gens Sertorii
The Sertorii are an old and powerful family that has been influential in politics and later on in war against the Numidians, Parthians and were regarded as superior naval commanders. They have had 6 consulships, numerous prosecutions, and were always a controlling force behind the populares movement. In the late republic Flavius became the most influential, and arguably strongest of the 3 triumvirs as ruler of the west.
Gens Maria
The Marians are a very old family that was highly regarded for their religious positions. Over the course of roman history they have held a stunning 7 consulships and 1 dictatorship. Much of marian history has been military oriented, known for defeating the Seleucids at Magnesia in early times. In the mid republic they were leaders of the populare movement but were assassinated when political tensions rose, temporarily weakening the family allowing the Sertorii to take control of the party. Later, the ambitious Gaius Marius Maximus became the youngest ever dictator defeating the Socii revolt, and after defeating the massive pontic forces in Greece declared the revolt against the corrupt senate with the aid of Sertori and and Rexians. After Quintus Sertorius died however the rivalry between his son Flavius and Gaius Marius Maximus became more pronounced as they were the two ambitious leaders of the populares and resented each other.
Gens Rexii
The Rexii have consistently been a presence in roman politics, having held 6 consulships and countless other positions. The Rexii are regarded as extremely skilled politicians having risen from former disgrace to great influence and wealth as a founding member of the populares. The Rexii do have a reputation of being greedy, yet their wealth bought them power that can now no longer be denied as rulers of the eastern provinces.
Winning Families- these families picked the right side and successfully navigated the roman game of thrones to high positions of power
Gens Flavii
Of all the families in Rome, the Flavii are the most well regarded among wealthy equites. Long ago this was not the case, but following the downfall of the Numetorii, the Flavii inherited much of the wealth of the Ripam Alexandrie and begun their own steady rise to 2 consulships and numerous censorships and praetorships. Aligning with the populares the Flavii became the political centerpiece of the movement as they secured such influence among the equite class that their power in the senate became overwhelming. Ever after they were given the surname of Cato, meaning wise. And wise they have been, supporting the right side becoming rich and powerful.
Gens Nipii
The Nipii emerged from obscurity in the punic wars, being used as master of horse for less competent dictators. However, in the end they secured their own command becoming heroes of the republic after defeating Hannibal at Cannae. This fame was long lasting but in the mid republic their fortunes began to dwindle as legions loyal to the Nipii were destroyed in the numerous wars. A founding member of the populares, the Nipii have been loyal partisans and this has kept them from sinking lower. Decius began to reverse these fortunes as being part of the battle of Rome and then following Sertorius into the west becoming his heir. The Nipii may rise once again…
Gens Octavii
A wealthy and influential political family, the Octavii were strong allies of the sertorii, and they aided each other's rise. The Octavii had numerous connections throughout the city of Rome among the equites, and were commonly the Praetor, but also have secured Consulship twice in history as well as governorships in cisalpine gaul. The Octavii carefully maneuvered the dangerous political battlefield, never have been assassinated, always working from within the shadows to emerge on top.
Gens Marcii
The family history of the Marcii is a winding but tragic one as well. Over the course of history they have influential, holding 4 consulships and their most famous moment was commanding the sack of Carthage, however Africanus fell to a plague and was later utterly disgraced by being implicated in treasonous plot with the Antonines. Rising from this misfortune they switched parties to the Populares and became a decisive element in the civil war by granting support in return for rule over the Asian provinces. But once again, the head of the family died, this time in battle, reducing the family to mediocrity.
Gens Paulli
The Paulli are a notoriously wealthy but also greedy roman family. They rose to power after falling out with Potestatem party by making deals with the Populares to rule wealthy provinces as long as they turned a blind eye to their corruption. Amassing huge sums, the Paulli were never in Rome for most of their history. But this is not to say they are without merit, for they helped bring roman civilization to cisalpine gaul, and were large bankrollers of the populare movement. In the civil war they grew more ambitious seeking military commands as admirals and growing closer to the Sertorian faction.
At least I am still part of the wealthy 1% Tier
Gens Numetorii
A once more powerful family in the early republic and leader of the notable third party, ripam alexandrie, the untimely death of the head of the family ended this movement. Later on, the Numetorii aligned themselves with Potestatem, but their high status was degraded by being on the losing side of the civil war. The Numetorii have held 4 Consulships, numerous other political positions and were known as saviors of Rome from the Germans and victors against the notorious Viriathus in their brightest moment.
Gens Caetronii
The Caetronii have always been defenders of the roman state, military leaders, above political factionalism. Over the course of history they have held 5 consulships and 1 dictatorship. The Caetronii were known as victors over gauls in early times, but were most influential in the mid republic reaching an apex under Lucius who defeated the Spanish revolts as well as the pirates, guiding Rome through a turbulent political time as a neutral player. In the late republic their fortunes fell as Lucius grew old and his heirs could not defend the republic from the populares. Even so, the Caetronii are a continuing strong presence in the roman state.
At least I am not dead Tier
Gens Cornelli Scipiones
An old and active family, their fortunes rose to supreme heights in the early republic as conquers of Illyria and climaxed with their 1 consulship. Later though they were politically destroyed by the Populares and then fell into obscurity, and when Gnaeus began to rise he was struck down by plague. In the late republic Metellus was known as the most stalwart defender of the senate and fought until the last at Africa.
Gens Varii
From plebian origins, the Varii rose from the lower classes to the senate with the support of the Potestatem party (by giving them huge sums of money). The Varii reached their apex in a consulship with the Numetorii, after defeating a huge german horde in pannonia. After this moment of glory they began to fade as their wealth dried up and the Potestatem lost political power. After the battle of rome they surrendered to the populares but despite this were still executed due to hatred against them from the Marians. Even so, the Varii have not been utterly destroyed as the family still lives on as their recent son has been spared by the now more merciful populare senate due to the passage of time.
Gens Pedii
Plebians like the Varii, the Pedii rose to political relevance in a dangerous political era. With civil war imminent, they were thrust into hard decisions. A marriage alliance almost occurred with the Rexii potentially earning the favor of the populares but this ultimately broken down and the Pedii backed the Senate to their ultimate doom. Despite donating their entire fortune to the senatorial cause, this was not enough as the senatorial forces failed three times in battle. Escaping from the populare onslaught as governer of narbonese Gaul, the Pedii were finally captured after the Senatorial defeat in Africa and exiled.
Losers - families fallen from power, or traitors, or extinct
Gens Antonia, Gens Phoenicii, Gens Maximii , other people who have dropped out
Ok I am officially ending the game, sorry that there will be no Grand Finale. None of the Triumvirs except Sertorius wanted civil war. However, the other two guys got absurdly angry at me. One has even blocked me, and imo has begun to take this game way too personally. I don't want to lose friends over a forum game, this is literally the only reason why I am now stopping. Also, a good lesson as to why you keep IC and OOC separate. ....Although in a way I see it as a success I got people to be this emotionally invested in a forum game
gg all, let us now remember the great legends of the roman families
Triumvir Families - these 3 have reached the apex of power, although shared
Gens Sertorii
The Sertorii are an old and powerful family that has been influential in politics and later on in war against the Numidians, Parthians and were regarded as superior naval commanders. They have had 6 consulships, numerous prosecutions, and were always a controlling force behind the populares movement. In the late republic Flavius became the most influential, and arguably strongest of the 3 triumvirs as ruler of the west.
Gens Maria
The Marians are a very old family that was highly regarded for their religious positions. Over the course of roman history they have held a stunning 7 consulships and 1 dictatorship. Much of marian history has been military oriented, known for defeating the Seleucids at Magnesia in early times. In the mid republic they were leaders of the populare movement but were assassinated when political tensions rose, temporarily weakening the family allowing the Sertorii to take control of the party. Later, the ambitious Gaius Marius Maximus became the youngest ever dictator defeating the Socii revolt, and after defeating the massive pontic forces in Greece declared the revolt against the corrupt senate with the aid of Sertori and and Rexians. After Quintus Sertorius died however the rivalry between his son Flavius and Gaius Marius Maximus became more pronounced as they were the two ambitious leaders of the populares and resented each other.
Gens Rexii
The Rexii have consistently been a presence in roman politics, having held 6 consulships and countless other positions. The Rexii are regarded as extremely skilled politicians having risen from former disgrace to great influence and wealth as a founding member of the populares. The Rexii do have a reputation of being greedy, yet their wealth bought them power that can now no longer be denied as rulers of the eastern provinces.
Winning Families- these families picked the right side and successfully navigated the roman game of thrones to high positions of power
Gens Flavii
Of all the families in Rome, the Flavii are the most well regarded among wealthy equites. Long ago this was not the case, but following the downfall of the Numetorii, the Flavii inherited much of the wealth of the Ripam Alexandrie and begun their own steady rise to 2 consulships and numerous censorships and praetorships. Aligning with the populares the Flavii became the political centerpiece of the movement as they secured such influence among the equite class that their power in the senate became overwhelming. Ever after they were given the surname of Cato, meaning wise. And wise they have been, supporting the right side becoming rich and powerful.
Gens Nipii
The Nipii emerged from obscurity in the punic wars, being used as master of horse for less competent dictators. However, in the end they secured their own command becoming heroes of the republic after defeating Hannibal at Cannae. This fame was long lasting but in the mid republic their fortunes began to dwindle as legions loyal to the Nipii were destroyed in the numerous wars. A founding member of the populares, the Nipii have been loyal partisans and this has kept them from sinking lower. Decius began to reverse these fortunes as being part of the battle of Rome and then following Sertorius into the west becoming his heir. The Nipii may rise once again…
Gens Octavii
A wealthy and influential political family, the Octavii were strong allies of the sertorii, and they aided each other's rise. The Octavii had numerous connections throughout the city of Rome among the equites, and were commonly the Praetor, but also have secured Consulship twice in history as well as governorships in cisalpine gaul. The Octavii carefully maneuvered the dangerous political battlefield, never have been assassinated, always working from within the shadows to emerge on top.
Gens Marcii
The family history of the Marcii is a winding but tragic one as well. Over the course of history they have influential, holding 4 consulships and their most famous moment was commanding the sack of Carthage, however Africanus fell to a plague and was later utterly disgraced by being implicated in treasonous plot with the Antonines. Rising from this misfortune they switched parties to the Populares and became a decisive element in the civil war by granting support in return for rule over the Asian provinces. But once again, the head of the family died, this time in battle, reducing the family to mediocrity.
Gens Paulli
The Paulli are a notoriously wealthy but also greedy roman family. They rose to power after falling out with Potestatem party by making deals with the Populares to rule wealthy provinces as long as they turned a blind eye to their corruption. Amassing huge sums, the Paulli were never in Rome for most of their history. But this is not to say they are without merit, for they helped bring roman civilization to cisalpine gaul, and were large bankrollers of the populare movement. In the civil war they grew more ambitious seeking military commands as admirals and growing closer to the Sertorian faction.
At least I am still part of the wealthy 1% Tier
Gens Numetorii
A once more powerful family in the early republic and leader of the notable third party, ripam alexandrie, the untimely death of the head of the family ended this movement. Later on, the Numetorii aligned themselves with Potestatem, but their high status was degraded by being on the losing side of the civil war. The Numetorii have held 4 Consulships, numerous other political positions and were known as saviors of Rome from the Germans and victors against the notorious Viriathus in their brightest moment.
Gens Caetronii
The Caetronii have always been defenders of the roman state, military leaders, above political factionalism. Over the course of history they have held 5 consulships and 1 dictatorship. The Caetronii were known as victors over gauls in early times, but were most influential in the mid republic reaching an apex under Lucius who defeated the Spanish revolts as well as the pirates, guiding Rome through a turbulent political time as a neutral player. In the late republic their fortunes fell as Lucius grew old and his heirs could not defend the republic from the populares. Even so, the Caetronii are a continuing strong presence in the roman state.
At least I am not dead Tier
Gens Cornelli Scipiones
An old and active family, their fortunes rose to supreme heights in the early republic as conquers of Illyria and climaxed with their 1 consulship. Later though they were politically destroyed by the Populares and then fell into obscurity, and when Gnaeus began to rise he was struck down by plague. In the late republic Metellus was known as the most stalwart defender of the senate and fought until the last at Africa.
Gens Varii
From plebian origins, the Varii rose from the lower classes to the senate with the support of the Potestatem party (by giving them huge sums of money). The Varii reached their apex in a consulship with the Numetorii, after defeating a huge german horde in pannonia. After this moment of glory they began to fade as their wealth dried up and the Potestatem lost political power. After the battle of rome they surrendered to the populares but despite this were still executed due to hatred against them from the Marians. Even so, the Varii have not been utterly destroyed as the family still lives on as their recent son has been spared by the now more merciful populare senate due to the passage of time.
Gens Pedii
Plebians like the Varii, the Pedii rose to political relevance in a dangerous political era. With civil war imminent, they were thrust into hard decisions. A marriage alliance almost occurred with the Rexii potentially earning the favor of the populares but this ultimately broken down and the Pedii backed the Senate to their ultimate doom. Despite donating their entire fortune to the senatorial cause, this was not enough as the senatorial forces failed three times in battle. Escaping from the populare onslaught as governer of narbonese Gaul, the Pedii were finally captured after the Senatorial defeat in Africa and exiled.
Losers - families fallen from power, or traitors, or extinct
Gens Antonia, Gens Phoenicii, Gens Maximii , other people who have dropped out
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Consul Vote 1)Vibius Caetronianus (MrArmy987) & Opiter Caelius (Safari) Censor Vote 2)Caspiel Rex (Darth.) Praetor Vote 2)Quantius Maximus (GC) Commands The current Consuls hav2 decided to issue a vote on the replacement of Gaius Octavius (Tirpitz406) (commander of the First Punic War) with : 3) Nay Vote upon levying of new legions/fleets 2) 4 fleets Force deployments 1)Dispatch all forces to the First Punic War Ship Building (+3 per fleet constructed) (winner may refuse this and it will return to the next consuls) Gaius Octavius (Tirpitz406) Backed by both Consuls +10 votes Tax Farmer 1 (+2 talents per turn) (winner may refuse this and it will return to the next consuls) Gaius Antonius (El Tundero) Backed by both Consuls +10 votes
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Consul Vote 1)Vibius Caetronianus (MrArmy987) & Opiter Caelius (Safari) Censor Vote 1)Herius Sertorius (Aetius) Praetor Vote 1)Decius Herminius Damasippus (Resting Lime) Commands 2)Tiberius Numertorius (JF.) [Ripam Alexandriae] Vote upon levying of new legions/fleets 1) 3 fleets and 4 Legions Force deployments 1)Dispatch all forces to the First Punic War Ship Building (+3 per fleet constructed) (winner may refuse this and it will return to the next consuls) Cossus Nipius Papus ( Death1816) Tax Farmer 4 (+2 talents per turn) (winner may refuse this and it will return to the next consuls) Cossus Nipius Papus ( Death1816)
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Consul: 1 Censor: 1 Praetor: 2 Command: 1 Levying: 1 Deployment: 1 Ship Building: Gaius Octavius Tax Farmer: Cossus Nipius Papus Trial: Innocent
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Consul Vote 1)Vibius Caetronianus (MrArmy987) & Opiter Caelius (Safari) Censor Vote 1)Herius Sertorius (Aetius) Praetor Vote 2)Quantius Maximus (GC) Vote upon levying of new legions/fleets 1) 2 fleets and 5 Legions Force deployments 1)Dispatch all forces to the First Punic War Ship Building Cassius Flavius (Aqollo) Tax Farmer 4 Quantius Maximus (GCI)
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Sry, I forgot about the trial, please edit your posts to include it
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On the matter of the Trial of Senator Tiberius Numertorius (JF.) I vote him to be: 2) Guilty
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Consul Vote 2) Publius Marius (Pyrrhus ) & Gaius Julius (GodofWar ) Censor Vote 1)Herius Sertorius (Aetius) Praetor Vote 2)Quantius Maximus (GC) Commands 1)Consul Herius Sertorius (Aetius) as land commander, Cossus Nipius Papus ( Death1816) as naval commander Vote upon levying of new legions/fleets 1) 2 fleets and 5 Legions Force deployments 1)Dispatch all forces to the First Punic War Trial of Tiberius Numertorius (JF.) -hardest decision still deciding- Ship Building (+3 per fleet constructed) (winner may refuse this and it will return to the next consuls) Gaius Octavius (Tirpitz406) Backed by both Consuls +10 votes Tax Farmer 4 (+2 talents per turn) (winner may refuse this and it will return to the next consuls) Gaius Antonius (El Tundero) Backed by both Consuls +10 votes
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Consul Vote 1)Vibius Caetronianus (MrArmy987) & Opiter Caelius (Safari) Censor Vote 1)Herius Sertorius (Aetius) Praetor Vote 2)Quantius Maximus (GC) Commands 1)Consul Herius Sertorius (Aetius) as land commander, Cossus Nipius Papus ( Death1816) as naval commander Vote upon levying of new legions/fleets 1) 2 fleets and 5 Legions Force deployments 1)Dispatch all forces to the First Punic War Trial of Tiberius Numertorius (JF.) 2) Guilty [those poor people he abused :'( ] Ship Building (+3 per fleet constructed) (winner may refuse this and it will return to the next consuls) Gaius Octavius (Tirpitz406) Backed by both Consuls +10 votes Tax Farmer 4 (+2 talents per turn) (winner may refuse this and it will return to the next consuls) Gaius Antonius (El Tundero) Backed by both Consuls +10 votes
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Senator Caspiel Rex casts the following votes:  Consul Vote 2) Publius Marius (Pyrrhus ) & Gaius Julius (GodofWar ) Censor Vote 2)Caspiel Rex (Darth.) Praetor Vote 1)Decius Herminius Damasippus (Resting Lime) Commands: 1)Consul Herius Sertorius (Aetius) as land commander, Cossus Nipius Papus ( Death1816) as naval commander Vote upon levying of new legions/fleets 1) 2 fleets and 5 Legions Force deployments 1)Dispatch all forces to the First Punic War Ship Building Gaius Octavius (Tirpitz406) Tax Farmer 4 Gaius Antonius (El Tundero) Already voted on the Trial of JF as guilty. Carthago delenda est! Note: The force deployment option is numbered wrongly
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Consul Vote 2) Publius Marius (Pyrrhus ) & Gaius Julius (GodofWar ) Censor Vote 1) Herius Sertorius (Aetius) Praetor Vote 1) Quantius Maximus (GC) Commands: 1) Consul Herius Sertorius (Aetius) as land commander, Cossus Nipius Papus ( Death1816) as naval commander Vote upon levying of new legions/fleets 1) 2 fleets and 5 Legions Force deployments 1) Dispatch all forces to the First Punic War Trial of Tiberius Numertorius (JF.) 2) Guilty Ship Building Cossus Nipius Papus ( Death1816) Tax Farmer 4 Gaius Antonius (El Tundero) Backed by both Consuls +10 votes
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Consul Vote 2 Censor Vote 2 Praetor Vote 1 Commands 2 Vote upon levying of new legions/fleets 1 Force deployments : i say again we must dispatch a force to fight Illyria JF is : 1 Innocent Ship Building : Tirpitz Tax Farmer : El Tundero
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Consul Vote 1)Vibius Caetronianus (MrArmy987) & Opiter Caelius (Safari) Censor Vote 2)Caspiel Rex (Darth.) Praetor Vote 1)Decius Herminius Damasippus (Resting Lime) 1)Consul Herius Sertorius (Aetius) as land commander, Cossus Nipius Papus ( Death1816) as naval commander Vote upon levying of new legions/fleets 2) 3 fleets and 4 Legions Force deployments 2)Nay Trial of Tiberius Numertorius (JF.) 1) Innocent
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Consul Vote 2) Publius Marius (Pyrrhus ) & Gaius Julius (GodofWar ) Censor Vote 2)Caspiel Rex (Darth.) Praetor Vote 1)Decius Herminius Damasippus (Resting Lime) Commands The current Consuls have decided to issue a vote on the replacement of Gaius Octavius (Tirpitz406) (commander of the First Punic War) with : 1)Consul Herius Sertorius (Aetius) as land commander, Cossus Nipius Papus ( Death1816) as naval commander Vote upon levying of new legions/fleets 1) 2 fleets and 5 Legions Force deployments 1)Dispatch all forces to the First Punic War Trial of Tiberius Numertorius (JF.) Presiding Censor: Gaius Julius (GodofWar ) Presiding Praetor Opiter Caelius (Safari) (+8 votes due to oratory) will gain half JF's influence if he is prosecuted Accused: Tiberius Numertorius (JF.) (+2 votes in his defense due to 2 influence) Crime: Avarice (Minor Prosecution) Penalty: -5 influence, -5 popularity, all concessions lost "As a jury of his peers, the Senate is now to declare its verdict on this case!" 2) Guilty Ship Building (+3 per fleet constructed) (winner may refuse this and it will return to the next consuls) Gaius Octavius (Tirpitz406) Backed by both Consuls +10 votes Tax Farmer 4 (+2 talents per turn) (winner may refuse this and it will return to the next consuls) Gaius Antonius (El Tundero) Backed by both Consuls +10 votes
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Attention fellow senators The trial of JF is a massive miscarriage of justice if he is found guilty. I bid that you vote not guilty after listening to my defense of JF As you all know, the primary argument against JF is that he is abusing his concession to gain an advantage. Gow and his conglomerate of brown nosers are currently the ones in power. They see JF's wealth as a threat so they seek to reinforce their own power by attacking his. They are abusing the fact that they cannot be assassinated as retribution to attack others. It may be JF now but you might be next. Don't listen to their lies. They will meet their end in an alleyway one night. Secondly, jf is effectively trading 1 popularity for 5 talent which he donated immediately to rome. Is it a crime to trade your own stats for the benefit of rome? This injustice is only possible in a system where people in power cannot be taken down by assassination and they decide who is next to get in power. Do not allow rome to spiral into a corrupt oligarchy ran by a secret enigmatic faction who are too spineless to declare themselves to the public. Because of these factors I vote not guilty and bid fellow senator to do the same.
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i gave him an option to not be prosecuted and he chose not to take it it is clear as day that as his faction member you want to defend him but the general consensus is that he is guilty as charged.
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You see me as a threat, only reason you would charge me. Selfish actions, Not actions to benefit Rome and its coming campaigns. This type of behaviour got us deafen last game and already you have started with this power hungry campaign of yours that is not in the interest of rome. And losing all my concessions as a punishment ? Clear tactics to get more power for yourself. gaining ten talents of the people and losing 10x that as a punishment, makes no sense other than to eliminate a threat.
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i gave you a fair chance. i am just doing my job as censor. sorry you feel that way but you should have been aware of the consequences of doubling the concessions it is in the rules....
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Doubling and taking my influence and popularity How is that justified.
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You're blaming him for last game? He was dead last game lol. How is you losing concessions going to give him more power? Also Aqollo saying 'secret enigmatic faction' really made my day XAXAXAXA You guys get all paranoid about how gow and I want to take over Rome all by ourselves. Idk how 2 guys will take over the Republic, but I'll take it as a compliment  I mean, we're outnumbered and outvoted, but somehow we're a 2 man conspiracy to do a coup.
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yes he was part of the reason we lost, he causing too much trouble and trying to horde power for him and his people instead of rome
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If convicted by a vote, the Accused loses 5 Popularity (which can become negative) and 5 Influence (to a minimum of 0) as well as any Prior Consul marker, and must return all of his Concessions Ask Aetius. It's in the rules. Do your research
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How??! He didn't get voted into power, and he was assassinated turn 3, came back turn 6 and game ended turn 7....
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We follow the rules on the first page not the whole book of rules.
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It is on the first page man. Post number 2 or 3. Go look.
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JF wont be found guilty, its over 1 for all votes Zephyr for naval shit Aetius for tax stuff
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Look at this man's lies stream straight from his lips. He claims to be a 2 man team but tirpitz is also partnered with them. He later claims that gow was assassinated turn 3 but it was turn 4. Stop twisting the truth, people are getting sick of your shit. The fact that you people are the only ones who needed bodyguards last game really says something about your reputation.
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He was killed turn 4 and never came back. Stop twisting the truth.
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