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Napisano przez DeepFriedUnicorn, 23.12.2018 - 21:08
Should Kosovo have an army?

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Should Kosovo have an army?

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28.12.2018 - 10:54
Napisano przez Guest, 28.12.2018 at 08:18

Kosova is a nation and all peoples have the right to self-determination.

According to CIA, ethnic groups in Kosova:

Albanians 92.9%, Bosniaks 1.6%, Serbs 1.5%, Turk 1.1%, Ashkali 0.9%, Egyptian 0.7%, Gorani 0.6%, Romani 0.5%, other/unspecified 0.2% (2011 est.)

But the problem is there were an ethnic cleasing campaing in 1999, Serb population relocated to Serbia.
And again even in 1931 that was very different:
Pristina population in 1931
Turk- 7.573 (% 42)
Serp- 5.738 (% 31)
Albanian- 2.351 (% 13)
others - 2.651 (% 14)

after liberation of Kosova from Ottoman Empire, there were still more Albanians and Turks. however the Serbs owned Kosova before the Turks and the Albanians but at this moment we have to look demographic history of Kosova.

Albanians are part of the oldest european race Pelasgians (Pelasgians>Illyrians>Albanians). And their homeland were Albania and still it is.

Since we know the Serbs are southern-slavs which immigrated to balkans from east europe(wisła to pripet-dnepr).

So basically Kosova belongs to Albanians more than Serbs.

I don't tell that Kosova doesnt belong to Serbs just because Albanians lived there more than them but because, right now Albanians have more population and as we prove Albanians live there since centuries and they always had more population.
To make that much easier, for example; Istanbul originally belongs to Greeks but Turks conquered it and converted it to Turkish, but now Istanbul is more Turkish and less Greek, also Turks did conquer Selanik but there were always more Greeks and they didnt ethnically clean Selanik from Greeks, so Selanik belongs to the Greeks.
If we go for Kurdish states, we have to say Kurds have the right to self-determination. They have more population and they are older than Turks in Eastern Anatolia also in northern-Iraq and northern-Syria but they have no claim on Persia due to population and demographic history.

Sorry for my bad English, hope you guys understand, i tried to make it simple.

Hides on a alt<
Just assumed Albanians are related to illyrians, no science back this<
Justifies ethnic cleansing as a dejur claim over a large region<

Migration without consent is a Invasion, and the native population has the right to protect themselves. They may lose, or fail, but it ain't right that in our modern era foreigners are taking a sovereign peoples ability to defend themselves from migratory invasion away.
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28.12.2018 - 11:34
Without USA NATO on its own, Albanian forces would be crushed by the Serbian Army, wiped away in a few days from Kosovo



Guest aka Corambo
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28.12.2018 - 11:59
Napisano przez avatar, 28.12.2018 at 11:34


"..Soldiers! Heroes! The supreme command has erased our regiment from its records. Our regiment has been sacrificed for the honor of Belgrade and the Fatherland. Therefore, you no longer need to worry about your lives: they no longer exist.."
Best. Speech. Ever.
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28.12.2018 - 14:39
Napisano przez Guest, 28.12.2018 at 08:18

Kosova is a nation and all peoples have the right to self-determination.

According to CIA, ethnic groups in Kosova:

Albanians 92.9%, Bosniaks 1.6%, Serbs 1.5%, Turk 1.1%, Ashkali 0.9%, Egyptian 0.7%, Gorani 0.6%, Romani 0.5%, other/unspecified 0.2% (2011 est.)

But the problem is there were an ethnic cleasing campaing in 1999, Serb population relocated to Serbia.
And again even in 1931 that was very different:
Pristina population in 1931
Turk- 7.573 (% 42)
Serp- 5.738 (% 31)
Albanian- 2.351 (% 13)
others - 2.651 (% 14)

after liberation of Kosova from Ottoman Empire, there were still more Albanians and Turks. however the Serbs owned Kosova before the Turks and the Albanians but at this moment we have to look demographic history of Kosova.

Albanians are part of the oldest european race Pelasgians (Pelasgians>Illyrians>Albanians). And their homeland were Albania and still it is.

Since we know the Serbs are southern-slavs which immigrated to balkans from east europe(wisła to pripet-dnepr).

So basically Kosova belongs to Albanians more than Serbs.

I don't tell that Kosova doesnt belong to Serbs just because Albanians lived there more than them but because, right now Albanians have more population and as we prove Albanians live there since centuries and they always had more population.
To make that much easier, for example; Istanbul originally belongs to Greeks but Turks conquered it and converted it to Turkish, but now Istanbul is more Turkish and less Greek, also Turks did conquer Selanik but there were always more Greeks and they didnt ethnically clean Selanik from Greeks, so Selanik belongs to the Greeks.
If we go for Kurdish states, we have to say Kurds have the right to self-determination. They have more population and they are older than Turks in Eastern Anatolia also in northern-Iraq and northern-Syria but they have no claim on Persia due to population and demographic history.

Sorry for my bad English, hope you guys understand, i tried to make it simple.


Risking to sound racist, but i see only Albanians, Croatians and Estonians talking about their history and trying to persuade others on the internet. How not to be suspicious of claims when other european nations already have established their own history and you just discovered yours?

Where are Germans, Bulgarians, Spaniards talking about their heritage and ancestry, posting percentages and geographical pictures? Why always same people repeat new claims to their history?

Plus i don't think many care at this point, people changed, i believe even people in nations that such controversies come from stopped caring long ago, there are other things to worry about.
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