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Napisano przez Madrox1, 06.03.2013 - 22:47
So, i had this idea while playing Europa Universallis Rome.
What a bout a politics system?
I know its a vague ideam but i do have some kind of list on my mind:

1. Parties (of factions), each with different bonus and malus.
2. The Leader (player) would be able to choose from one of the parties (later we could set some events to change the party of the ruler).
3. Elections, every x turn the country would have a election, and based on the player performance in general (military, taxation and military).
4. Taxes, quite self explanatory, the player would have the options to change both global and local taxes adjusts, this would have an great effect on popularity and economy.
5. Laws, the player would be able to pass, for example, a law that enables forced conscription, or taxes-specific laws, or citizenship (for ancient-based or fantasy maps). Every of these decisions would have a varying impact on popularity, economy, recruitment...
5. Popularity, the index that sums up how much people like him, it would be affected by every aspect of the game and would affect military, election and economic efficiency.

I think thats it. i know it isn´t a great original idea and canbe very well out of the scope of the game itself, but i think it would add some nice depth on the gameplay and immersion.
11.03.2013 - 13:36
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Napisano przez Madrox1, 11.03.2013 at 06:51

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Noobs not fighting for 20+ weeks. Scares me.


Weeks?
that´s a awful lot of time...
so you fear if people suddenly starts to play complete UN games, they will play for too much time on the same game because of the restrictions?
is that what you mean?
Weeks = turns, in Afterwind weeks were turns so yeah. I mean that people sit of their asses chatting and bidding in UN games rather then fight much. They complain when they get killed by somone taht was preparing and not saving money to bid for Cyprus.


Because the actual features that the game have do not permitt the UN to have REAL impact on the gameplay, they needed to be political moderators and in the end, can´´t do much when everyone gets crazy. i think politics whould have REAL importance in the gameplay, nto just a "wannabe" theater of geopolitcs. :/


the problem is that each time i play it, i get too much sp and then UN goes rougue to get my sp.
if they implement a sp penalty, un's will stop going rougue and this will increase gameplay.


I think to UN actually work on AtWar, it need to be re-designed, either UN or AtWar.


Re-design atwar to fitt un? Bullshit.
Un's should get a sp penalty so people stop farming sp.


You don´t get the point:
In fact, as much as i love Atwar for what it is , a overhauled Risk, i recognize that its gameplay is shallow, too simple and action-packed, i think it needs more depth and content, more game-modes, more features...unfortunately it seems that you guys are too fearful of change. :/


Then go play a game that involves that stuff. Troll.
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11.03.2013 - 15:46
Napisano przez Skittzophrenic, 11.03.2013 at 13:36

Napisano przez Madrox1, 11.03.2013 at 12:55

Napisano przez Tundy, 11.03.2013 at 12:44

Napisano przez Madrox1, 11.03.2013 at 12:39

Napisano przez Tundy, 11.03.2013 at 12:32

Napisano przez Madrox1, 11.03.2013 at 11:40

Napisano przez Guest, 11.03.2013 at 10:28

Napisano przez Madrox1, 11.03.2013 at 06:51

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Noobs not fighting for 20+ weeks. Scares me.


Weeks?
that´s a awful lot of time...
so you fear if people suddenly starts to play complete UN games, they will play for too much time on the same game because of the restrictions?
is that what you mean?
Weeks = turns, in Afterwind weeks were turns so yeah. I mean that people sit of their asses chatting and bidding in UN games rather then fight much. They complain when they get killed by somone taht was preparing and not saving money to bid for Cyprus.


Because the actual features that the game have do not permitt the UN to have REAL impact on the gameplay, they needed to be political moderators and in the end, can´´t do much when everyone gets crazy. i think politics whould have REAL importance in the gameplay, nto just a "wannabe" theater of geopolitcs. :/


the problem is that each time i play it, i get too much sp and then UN goes rougue to get my sp.
if they implement a sp penalty, un's will stop going rougue and this will increase gameplay.


I think to UN actually work on AtWar, it need to be re-designed, either UN or AtWar.


Re-design atwar to fitt un? Bullshit.
Un's should get a sp penalty so people stop farming sp.


You don´t get the point:
In fact, as much as i love Atwar for what it is , a overhauled Risk, i recognize that its gameplay is shallow, too simple and action-packed, i think it needs more depth and content, more game-modes, more features...unfortunately it seems that you guys are too fearful of change. :/


Then go play a game that involves that stuff. Troll.


Oh...there it is, fianly the mr."ad hominem" comes! how are you?
So, you saying that by defending that AtWar shoudn´t be restricted to "war" and represent reality a little bit, you saying that im the troll? curious, im yet to come into one of your topics and say "NO! ITS CANCER" and then when i ask you to clarify things you say "nanananana! cancer! cancer!", then, i will ask, who´s the troll?
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11.03.2013 - 17:30
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No more off topic posts please.
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11.03.2013 - 18:25
Napisano przez Madrox1, 11.03.2013 at 15:46

Napisano przez Skittzophrenic, 11.03.2013 at 13:36

Napisano przez Madrox1, 11.03.2013 at 12:55

Napisano przez Tundy, 11.03.2013 at 12:44

Napisano przez Madrox1, 11.03.2013 at 12:39

Napisano przez Tundy, 11.03.2013 at 12:32

Napisano przez Madrox1, 11.03.2013 at 11:40

Napisano przez Guest, 11.03.2013 at 10:28

Napisano przez Madrox1, 11.03.2013 at 06:51

Cytuj:

Noobs not fighting for 20+ weeks. Scares me.


Weeks?
that´s a awful lot of time...
so you fear if people suddenly starts to play complete UN games, they will play for too much time on the same game because of the restrictions?
is that what you mean?
Weeks = turns, in Afterwind weeks were turns so yeah. I mean that people sit of their asses chatting and bidding in UN games rather then fight much. They complain when they get killed by somone taht was preparing and not saving money to bid for Cyprus.


Because the actual features that the game have do not permitt the UN to have REAL impact on the gameplay, they needed to be political moderators and in the end, can´´t do much when everyone gets crazy. i think politics whould have REAL importance in the gameplay, nto just a "wannabe" theater of geopolitcs. :/


the problem is that each time i play it, i get too much sp and then UN goes rougue to get my sp.
if they implement a sp penalty, un's will stop going rougue and this will increase gameplay.


I think to UN actually work on AtWar, it need to be re-designed, either UN or AtWar.


Re-design atwar to fitt un? Bullshit.
Un's should get a sp penalty so people stop farming sp.


You don´t get the point:
In fact, as much as i love Atwar for what it is , a overhauled Risk, i recognize that its gameplay is shallow, too simple and action-packed, i think it needs more depth and content, more game-modes, more features...unfortunately it seems that you guys are too fearful of change. :/


Then go play a game that involves that stuff. Troll.


Oh...there it is, fianly the mr."ad hominem" comes! how are you?
So, you saying that by defending that AtWar shoudn´t be restricted to "war" and represent reality a little bit, you saying that im the troll? curious, im yet to come into one of your topics and say "NO! ITS CANCER" and then when i ask you to clarify things you say "nanananana! cancer! cancer!", then, i will ask, who´s the troll?




>So then he said, "UN games would be better for AW!"
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11.03.2013 - 18:59
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>So then he said, "UN games would be better for AW!"


There´s no limit for you idiocy?
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11.03.2013 - 23:36
Napisano przez Madrox1, 11.03.2013 at 18:59

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>So then he said, "UN games would be better for AW!"


There´s no limit for you idiocy?


Nope.
But I don't know why you want this game to become a UN game. Makes no sense to me.
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11.03.2013 - 23:50
Madrox1 I suggest you try the Civilization series if you haven't already, it has many of the features you've been suggesting and there is some online multiplayer.
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12.03.2013 - 01:11
Napisano przez Skittzophrenic, 11.03.2013 at 23:36

Napisano przez Madrox1, 11.03.2013 at 18:59

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>So then he said, "UN games would be better for AW!"


There´s no limit for you idiocy?


Nope.
But I don't know why you want this game to become a UN game. Makes no sense to me.


What about, gameplay variety? depth? new experiences?
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12.03.2013 - 01:13
Napisano przez NoOne, 11.03.2013 at 23:50

Madrox1 I suggest you try the Civilization series if you haven't already, it has many of the features you've been suggesting and there is some online multiplayer.


You bet i know Civilization ( i said that on my topic on Off-Topic forum), btu still, AtWar is a different game, i justahd this felling that would be awesome to have some features like that. :/
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12.03.2013 - 01:13
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What about, gameplay variety? depth? new experiences?



No, no one wants to play UN games. End of story.
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12.03.2013 - 01:34
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Napisano przez Skittzophrenic, 12.03.2013 at 01:13

What about, gameplay variety? depth? new experiences?



No, no one wants to play UN games. End of story.
eer skittz? Noobs/Un Zombies still play UN games :/. We haven't cured them yet.
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12.03.2013 - 09:17
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eer skittz? Noobs/Un Zombies still play UN games :/. We haven't cured them yet.


Oh, I know, I am just trying to prevent this from becoming a UN game. That's a no-no.
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12.03.2013 - 14:06
Napisano przez Madrox1, 12.03.2013 at 01:13

Napisano przez NoOne, 11.03.2013 at 23:50

Madrox1 I suggest you try the Civilization series if you haven't already, it has many of the features you've been suggesting and there is some online multiplayer.


You bet i know Civilization ( i said that on my topic on Off-Topic forum), btu still, AtWar is a different game, i justahd this felling that would be awesome to have some features like that. :/

Well Madrox1 you answered it yourself. AtWar is a different game, and not Civilization.
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12.03.2013 - 15:14
Napisano przez NoOne, 12.03.2013 at 14:06

Napisano przez Madrox1, 12.03.2013 at 01:13

Napisano przez NoOne, 11.03.2013 at 23:50

Madrox1 I suggest you try the Civilization series if you haven't already, it has many of the features you've been suggesting and there is some online multiplayer.


You bet i know Civilization ( i said that on my topic on Off-Topic forum), btu still, AtWar is a different game, i justahd this felling that would be awesome to have some features like that. :/

Well Madrox1 you answered it yourself. AtWar is a different game, and not Civilization.


I maintain my position, i still think it would be best to have more gameplay diversity. Something like "mods", why not?
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12.03.2013 - 20:23
I just going to stay I like Idea about The Classic and UN version in choosing the game. That you can choose which one you want to play. Just saying it not bad Idea.
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12.03.2013 - 21:08
Napisano przez Madrox1, 12.03.2013 at 15:14

Napisano przez NoOne, 12.03.2013 at 14:06

Napisano przez Madrox1, 12.03.2013 at 01:13

Napisano przez NoOne, 11.03.2013 at 23:50

Madrox1 I suggest you try the Civilization series if you haven't already, it has many of the features you've been suggesting and there is some online multiplayer.


You bet i know Civilization ( i said that on my topic on Off-Topic forum), btu still, AtWar is a different game, i justahd this felling that would be awesome to have some features like that. :/

Well Madrox1 you answered it yourself. AtWar is a different game, and not Civilization.


I maintain my position, i still think it would be best to have more gameplay diversity. Something like "mods", why not?



Boy you won't give up. No one wants it, now quit it.
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12.03.2013 - 21:20
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Boy you won't give up. No one wants it, now quit it.


I like the Ideal as option for us who want a bigger challenge then just buying and moving troops. KEYWORD option, you don't have to play it if you don't want to. If we have a classic and Political option in the set up menu you can play which ever one floats you boat. Plus I don't want to see the quick fast game play of the current model to disappear but this will help to relieve the Tedious feeling I get sometimes when playing this game.
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12.03.2013 - 22:29
Napisano przez Skittzophrenic, 12.03.2013 at 21:08

Napisano przez Madrox1, 12.03.2013 at 15:14

Napisano przez NoOne, 12.03.2013 at 14:06

Napisano przez Madrox1, 12.03.2013 at 01:13

Napisano przez NoOne, 11.03.2013 at 23:50

Madrox1 I suggest you try the Civilization series if you haven't already, it has many of the features you've been suggesting and there is some online multiplayer.


You bet i know Civilization ( i said that on my topic on Off-Topic forum), btu still, AtWar is a different game, i justahd this felling that would be awesome to have some features like that. :/

Well Madrox1 you answered it yourself. AtWar is a different game, and not Civilization.


I maintain my position, i still think it would be best to have more gameplay diversity. Something like "mods", why not?



Boy you won't give up. No one wants it, now quit it.


Who are you to be the spokesperson of "everyone", they can talk by themselves, you know, you are fearful of changes and i understand that, who isn´t? but there is no progress in anything without change. we will never know if it is a good idea if we do not try first.
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12.03.2013 - 23:05
The thing is you are suggesting too much to change and implement.
You suggested 5 different things that aren't too bad, but you have to work on them one at a time not all at once.
If something like this ever does become an option in atWar it will be after a long period of small changes.
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13.03.2013 - 00:09
Napisano przez NoOne, 12.03.2013 at 23:05

The thing is you are suggesting too much to change and implement.
You suggested 5 different things that aren't too bad, but you have to work on them one at a time not all at once.
If something like this ever does become an option in atWar it will be after a long period of small changes.


Originally i was thinking on a entire ruleset that would be programmed, tested, balanced and implemented at once. but this kind of "gradual" changes aren´t bad either, the player would have the option to set specific aspects like "Laws" or "Taxes" like "on" or "off".


(kinda) Offtopic:
Still, if our not-so-kind-and-intelligent Skittz is right and the rejection is too great, they shoudn´be implemented at all, maybe because that kind of "they who have premium, commands AtWar" (at some extent), it is kinda of a moral and ethical debate over if only premium users and the devs should have a say on AtWar destiny.
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13.03.2013 - 00:43
Here's an option, ask Amok and Ivan directly and see what they say.
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13.03.2013 - 01:00
Napisano przez Skittzophrenic, 13.03.2013 at 00:43

Here's an option, ask Amok and Ivan directly and see what they say.


That´s actually a good idea.
but still, i posted this topic specifically for the community and the devs to see and comment on it, if they have something to say to this, why would i have a debate with them in private? don´t you think its counter-productive to the exchange of ideas?
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13.03.2013 - 10:58
Napisano przez Madrox1, 13.03.2013 at 01:00

Napisano przez Skittzophrenic, 13.03.2013 at 00:43

Here's an option, ask Amok and Ivan directly and see what they say.


That´s actually a good idea.
but still, i posted this topic specifically for the community and the devs to see and comment on it, if they have something to say to this, why would i have a debate with them in private? don´t you think its counter-productive to the exchange of ideas?


hahahahahaha
do you really think admins will ever read it?
lol
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13.03.2013 - 11:41
Napisano przez Tundy, 13.03.2013 at 10:58

Napisano przez Madrox1, 13.03.2013 at 01:00

Napisano przez Skittzophrenic, 13.03.2013 at 00:43

Here's an option, ask Amok and Ivan directly and see what they say.


That´s actually a good idea.
but still, i posted this topic specifically for the community and the devs to see and comment on it, if they have something to say to this, why would i have a debate with them in private? don´t you think its counter-productive to the exchange of ideas?


hahahahahaha
do you really think admins will ever read it?
lol


lol
I surely hope so.
if they do not, then what´s the point of this entire forum?
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15.03.2013 - 22:01
As creator of the un game i dont think afterwind or atwar is ready for this but it would be cool for this to be put in

Un dont cause cancer the idiots that dont play it right do :-P
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16.03.2013 - 02:13
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Napisano przez Cpt.Magic, 15.03.2013 at 22:01

As creator of the un game i dont think afterwind or atwar is ready for this but it would be cool for this to be put in

Un dont cause cancer the idiots that dont play it right do :-P
And the noobs who sit on their asses for 20 turns and not fighting.
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16.03.2013 - 13:47
Napisano przez Cpt.Magic, 15.03.2013 at 22:01

As creator of the un game i dont think afterwind or atwar is ready for this but it would be cool for this to be put in

Un dont cause cancer the idiots that dont play it right do :-P


excuse me? last time i played as Southern Europe.
Raped Canada with marines.

you choosed usa and where acting like a little bitch, and wanted to fight me 3 vs 1.


Then, i played as eastern europe. and raped you as russia, and raped italy. then i was declared rougue lol.
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16.03.2013 - 17:33
Napisano przez Tundy, 16.03.2013 at 13:47

Napisano przez Cpt.Magic, 15.03.2013 at 22:01

As creator of the un game i dont think afterwind or atwar is ready for this but it would be cool for this to be put in

Un dont cause cancer the idiots that dont play it right do :-P


excuse me? last time i played as Southern Europe.
Raped Canada with marines.

you choosed usa and where acting like a little bitch, and wanted to fight me 3 vs 1.


Then, i played as eastern europe. and raped you as russia, and raped italy. then i was declared rougue lol.


We have a "raper" here, someone call the police! xD
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16.03.2013 - 17:36
Napisano przez Guest, 16.03.2013 at 02:13

Napisano przez Cpt.Magic, 15.03.2013 at 22:01

As creator of the un game i dont think afterwind or atwar is ready for this but it would be cool for this to be put in

Un dont cause cancer the idiots that dont play it right do :-P
And the noobs who sit on their asses for 20 turns and not fighting.


Cpt.Magic, when it will be ever ready?

Tesla, remeber that everyone was a noob one day, repect them, teach them, but do not ever say they are wrong because they are "noobs".
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16.03.2013 - 17:57
UN games will never be implemented into AW, end of story.
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