[Discussions] AtWar Grand Master / AtWar Master List

Napisano przez sirivann, 03.11.2021 at 13:10

Napisano przez Sid, 03.11.2021 at 03:48

Napisano przez Ivan., 03.11.2021 at 03:46

I Challenge you to play vs. me on your favorite map, but you have to change your name permanently to Huarck's Slave if you lose. Deal?
not scene with ten events and 3000 units out of nowhere tho

My love Sid, that isn't pretty accurate. I have seen tons of ultra Op players on EU+ getting bested and beaten in any kind of scenarios, not only in the OU of WWI or LOTR related ones, but in colonial related ones like GGG or even in ancient FFA's.

We could try to do an Ancient Master or a Colonial Master btw.

Napisano przez The Panda Jew, 03.11.2021 at 07:18

Napisano przez Ivan., 03.11.2021 at 07:10

Napisano przez The Panda Jew, 03.11.2021 at 06:20

What about those of us that cw but don't duel?

You can create your own list and requirements.

I'll make my own list, with blackjack and hookers.

kk pls include me ;_;

Napisano przez I_Hate_You_All, 03.11.2021 at 14:44

My love Sid, that isn't pretty accurate. I have seen tons of ultra Op players on EU+ getting bested and beaten in any kind of scenarios, not only in the OU of WWI or LOTR related ones, but in colonial related ones like GGG or even in ancient FFA's.

We could try to do an Ancient Master or a Colonial Master btw.

Duel?

Welcome to: Sid pisses off scen community with 2 posts. I expected this to be a shitshow, but for different reasons lol

Napisano przez Witch-Doctor, 03.11.2021 at 14:58

Napisano przez I_Hate_You_All, 03.11.2021 at 14:44

My love Sid, that isn't pretty accurate. I have seen tons of ultra Op players on EU+ getting bested and beaten in any kind of scenarios, not only in the OU of WWI or LOTR related ones, but in colonial related ones like GGG or even in ancient FFA's.

We could try to do an Ancient Master or a Colonial Master btw.

Duel?

Can we duel in any colonial based map?

Napisano przez I_Hate_You_All, 03.11.2021 at 15:16

Napisano przez Witch-Doctor, 03.11.2021 at 14:58

Napisano przez I_Hate_You_All, 03.11.2021 at 14:44

My love Sid, that isn't pretty accurate. I have seen tons of ultra Op players on EU+ getting bested and beaten in any kind of scenarios, not only in the OU of WWI or LOTR related ones, but in colonial related ones like GGG or even in ancient FFA's.

We could try to do an Ancient Master or a Colonial Master btw.

Duel?

Can we duel in any colonial based map?

K but I get first pick.

It's a shame to see an admin endorse the notion that skill is exclusively measured by playing the same map with the same settings over and over again. Only a handful of these players can play scenarios and other maps competitively.

Based on the replies you gave in this tread, I can tell you that you haven't properly informed yourself on the players and skill levels of the players you have completely glossed in the making of this list. Thus you should delete or remake it.

Casual duel/cw noobs

Don't forget froyer west ♿️

There needs to be Competitive "Beta" Grandmasters, scenario Grandmasters, and RP Grandmasters, each with their own nomination process

Napisano przez Tribune Aquila, 03.11.2021 at 15:57

There needs to be Competitive "Beta" Grandmasters, scenario Grandmasters, and RP Grandmasters, each with their own nomination process

An "RP Grandmaster" is on average about as skilled as a rank 7-8 in competitive. Not going to call them GM/AM in this list.

Napisano przez Sid, 03.11.2021 at 16:00

Napisano przez Tribune Aquila, 03.11.2021 at 15:57

There needs to be Competitive "Beta" Grandmasters, scenario Grandmasters, and RP Grandmasters, each with their own nomination process

An "RP Grandmaster" is on average about as skilled as a rank 7-8 in competitive. Not going to call them GM/AM in this list.

I've faced Alois, Garde, Al Fappino, and the "Hateful 8" as they were called, and dozens of others who go unnoticed by the elites of our society (aka grandmasters) because of their unique skillset and gifts from the Almighty. They put up a very fierce battle in-game, and I would caution you to dismiss their skillset has close to a rank 7-8 in competitive. They have psychological skills that get into the heads of high ranks, that give them a distinct advantage through verbal attacks. The RP folks aren't around much because they have low attention spans but there are still some high ranks who are skilled in the art of role play who clearly are grandmasters in all but name.

Napisano przez Sid, 03.11.2021 at 03:58

Napisano przez Ivan., 03.11.2021 at 03:55

Well it's just prediction from you and nothing else, unless they play they does not qualify for other preset.

We see a lot of competitive players going into scenarios, or other maps and they typically decimate everyone in them after a little practice. You don't see the reverse happen in more than 1-2 special cases. If that is the case though then they should only need minor practice to master Eu+ and get a title through my requirements. I picked Eu+ because it's the most known and played. We gotta set a standard somewhere and Eu+ is kind of the only option.

HAHAHAHA. wrong

Napisano przez ITSGG1122, 03.11.2021 at 16:55

Napisano przez Sid, 03.11.2021 at 03:58

Napisano przez Ivan., 03.11.2021 at 03:55

Well it's just prediction from you and nothing else, unless they play they does not qualify for other preset.

We see a lot of competitive players going into scenarios, or other maps and they typically decimate everyone in them after a little practice. You don't see the reverse happen in more than 1-2 special cases. If that is the case though then they should only need minor practice to master Eu+ and get a title through my requirements. I picked Eu+ because it's the most known and played. We gotta set a standard somewhere and Eu+ is kind of the only option.

HAHAHAHA. wrong

Hahah right. Don't make us have to beat you to get the point across.

Napisano przez Witch-Doctor, 03.11.2021 at 17:03

Napisano przez ITSGG1122, 03.11.2021 at 16:55

Napisano przez Sid, 03.11.2021 at 03:58

Napisano przez Ivan., 03.11.2021 at 03:55

Well it's just prediction from you and nothing else, unless they play they does not qualify for other preset.

We see a lot of competitive players going into scenarios, or other maps and they typically decimate everyone in them after a little practice. You don't see the reverse happen in more than 1-2 special cases. If that is the case though then they should only need minor practice to master Eu+ and get a title through my requirements. I picked Eu+ because it's the most known and played. We gotta set a standard somewhere and Eu+ is kind of the only option.

HAHAHAHA. wrong

Hahah right. Don't make us have to beat you to get the point across.

come then... dont forget t9 prussia hahaha :p

Napisano przez ITSGG1122, 03.11.2021 at 17:04

Napisano przez Witch-Doctor, 03.11.2021 at 17:03

Napisano przez ITSGG1122, 03.11.2021 at 16:55

Napisano przez Sid, 03.11.2021 at 03:58

Napisano przez Ivan., 03.11.2021 at 03:55

Well it's just prediction from you and nothing else, unless they play they does not qualify for other preset.

We see a lot of competitive players going into scenarios, or other maps and they typically decimate everyone in them after a little practice. You don't see the reverse happen in more than 1-2 special cases. If that is the case though then they should only need minor practice to master Eu+ and get a title through my requirements. I picked Eu+ because it's the most known and played. We gotta set a standard somewhere and Eu+ is kind of the only option.

HAHAHAHA. wrong

Hahah right. Don't make us have to beat you to get the point across.

come then... dont forget t9 prussia hahaha :p

Dont forget, I pick my entire team as well so there's no question competitive players are better.

Napisano przez Witch-Doctor, 03.11.2021 at 17:05

Napisano przez ITSGG1122, 03.11.2021 at 17:04

Napisano przez Witch-Doctor, 03.11.2021 at 17:03

Napisano przez ITSGG1122, 03.11.2021 at 16:55

Napisano przez Sid, 03.11.2021 at 03:58

Napisano przez Ivan., 03.11.2021 at 03:55

Well it's just prediction from you and nothing else, unless they play they does not qualify for other preset.

We see a lot of competitive players going into scenarios, or other maps and they typically decimate everyone in them after a little practice. You don't see the reverse happen in more than 1-2 special cases. If that is the case though then they should only need minor practice to master Eu+ and get a title through my requirements. I picked Eu+ because it's the most known and played. We gotta set a standard somewhere and Eu+ is kind of the only option.

HAHAHAHA. wrong

Hahah right. Don't make us have to beat you to get the point across.

come then... dont forget t9 prussia hahaha :p

Dont forget, I pick my entire team as well so there's no question competitive players are better.

Ok lets do 4th age or neuordnung map. You pick your best comp players. I pick my best scen players.

U just count from they rp game and world map

Napisano przez Conscious Huarck, 03.11.2021 at 14:40

Napisano przez sirivann, 03.11.2021 at 13:10

Napisano przez Sid, 03.11.2021 at 03:48

Napisano przez Ivan., 03.11.2021 at 03:46

I Challenge you to play vs. me on your favorite map, but you have to change your name permanently to Huarck's Slave if you lose. Deal?
not scene with ten events and 3000 units out of nowhere tho

nigga, who the fuck are you, your clan has pmed me asking for cw ive told them to pick one of the dozens of maps aetius, pyrhus or dire have and you guys have responded with no xD

Napisano przez Witch-Doctor, 03.11.2021 at 17:05

Napisano przez ITSGG1122, 03.11.2021 at 17:04

Napisano przez Witch-Doctor, 03.11.2021 at 17:03

Napisano przez ITSGG1122, 03.11.2021 at 16:55

Napisano przez Sid, 03.11.2021 at 03:58

Napisano przez Ivan., 03.11.2021 at 03:55

Well it's just prediction from you and nothing else, unless they play they does not qualify for other preset.

We see a lot of competitive players going into scenarios, or other maps and they typically decimate everyone in them after a little practice. You don't see the reverse happen in more than 1-2 special cases. If that is the case though then they should only need minor practice to master Eu+ and get a title through my requirements. I picked Eu+ because it's the most known and played. We gotta set a standard somewhere and Eu+ is kind of the only option.

HAHAHAHA. wrong

Hahah right. Don't make us have to beat you to get the point across.

come then... dont forget t9 prussia hahaha :p

Dont forget, I pick my entire team as well so there's no question competitive players are better.

Sure go ahead and when you are done making your elite team tell one of us so we can arrange a game of our choosing since you guys claim you are able to play any map.

Do u get sexy (GM) in front of your name?

Napisano przez Ivan., 03.11.2021 at 20:28

Napisano przez Witch-Doctor, 03.11.2021 at 17:05

Napisano przez ITSGG1122, 03.11.2021 at 17:04

Napisano przez Witch-Doctor, 03.11.2021 at 17:03

Napisano przez ITSGG1122, 03.11.2021 at 16:55

Napisano przez Sid, 03.11.2021 at 03:58

Napisano przez Ivan., 03.11.2021 at 03:55

Well it's just prediction from you and nothing else, unless they play they does not qualify for other preset.

We see a lot of competitive players going into scenarios, or other maps and they typically decimate everyone in them after a little practice. You don't see the reverse happen in more than 1-2 special cases. If that is the case though then they should only need minor practice to master Eu+ and get a title through my requirements. I picked Eu+ because it's the most known and played. We gotta set a standard somewhere and Eu+ is kind of the only option.

HAHAHAHA. wrong

Hahah right. Don't make us have to beat you to get the point across.

come then... dont forget t9 prussia hahaha :p

Dont forget, I pick my entire team as well so there's no question competitive players are better.

Sure go ahead and when you are done making your elite team tell one of us so we can arrange a game of our choosing since you guys claim you are able to play any map.

You pick the map, but we get to pick what side we play. You know, as an incentive to not pick an unbalanced map.

Napisano przez Witch-Doctor, 03.11.2021 at 20:49

Napisano przez Ivan., 03.11.2021 at 20:28

Napisano przez Witch-Doctor, 03.11.2021 at 17:05

Napisano przez ITSGG1122, 03.11.2021 at 17:04

Napisano przez Witch-Doctor, 03.11.2021 at 17:03

Napisano przez ITSGG1122, 03.11.2021 at 16:55

Napisano przez Sid, 03.11.2021 at 03:58

Napisano przez Ivan., 03.11.2021 at 03:55

Well it's just prediction from you and nothing else, unless they play they does not qualify for other preset.

We see a lot of competitive players going into scenarios, or other maps and they typically decimate everyone in them after a little practice. You don't see the reverse happen in more than 1-2 special cases. If that is the case though then they should only need minor practice to master Eu+ and get a title through my requirements. I picked Eu+ because it's the most known and played. We gotta set a standard somewhere and Eu+ is kind of the only option.

HAHAHAHA. wrong

Hahah right. Don't make us have to beat you to get the point across.

come then... dont forget t9 prussia hahaha :p

Dont forget, I pick my entire team as well so there's no question competitive players are better.

Sure go ahead and when you are done making your elite team tell one of us so we can arrange a game of our choosing since you guys claim you are able to play any map.

You pick the map, but we get to pick what side we play. You know, as an incentive to not pick an unbalanced map.

You could just do what we been doing in scenario CW, do 2 games, one for each side, that way non can complain that they had the weaker picks etc .

Napisano przez Witch-Doctor, 03.11.2021 at 20:49

Napisano przez Ivan., 03.11.2021 at 20:28

Napisano przez Witch-Doctor, 03.11.2021 at 17:05

Napisano przez ITSGG1122, 03.11.2021 at 17:04

Napisano przez Witch-Doctor, 03.11.2021 at 17:03

Napisano przez ITSGG1122, 03.11.2021 at 16:55

Napisano przez Sid, 03.11.2021 at 03:58

Napisano przez Ivan., 03.11.2021 at 03:55

Well it's just prediction from you and nothing else, unless they play they does not qualify for other preset.

We see a lot of competitive players going into scenarios, or other maps and they typically decimate everyone in them after a little practice. You don't see the reverse happen in more than 1-2 special cases. If that is the case though then they should only need minor practice to master Eu+ and get a title through my requirements. I picked Eu+ because it's the most known and played. We gotta set a standard somewhere and Eu+ is kind of the only option.

HAHAHAHA. wrong

Hahah right. Don't make us have to beat you to get the point across.

come then... dont forget t9 prussia hahaha :p

Dont forget, I pick my entire team as well so there's no question competitive players are better.

Sure go ahead and when you are done making your elite team tell one of us so we can arrange a game of our choosing since you guys claim you are able to play any map.

You pick the map, but we get to pick what side we play. You know, as an incentive to not pick an unbalanced map.

Hmm we can do what Siri suggested 2 games with each side.

Napisano przez sirivann, 03.11.2021 at 19:19

nigga, who the fuck are you, your clan has pmed me asking for cw ive told them to pick one of the dozens of maps aetius, pyrhus or dire have and you guys have responded with no xD

Why u guys dodge playing on FFA maps? Dont try to be ultra smart with me Siri, we both know that all the scenarios of Aetius, Phyrrhus and Dire, ranging from ancient based ones to others like the LOTR, WWI or Warhammer 40k have a lot of event units. Huarck and the boys in the clan will gladly cw yours on a FFA map like Destoria, Ancient or Nakarsia, etc there a shit ton of FFA maps that doesn't depend on events, just on skill of the player. Dont try to tell us that stacking a shit ton of trench unit in WWI is a super strat, the same from a russia who only spams walls to delay the event of East Prussia to go into their lands...

Also i dont know how to feel and how a player like me would fit in the standards of what is considered an AtWar Master because i have been playing scenario, ancient, colonial maps and EU+....and casual too lol (whose many of my clanmates or former clanmates in this or in another clans i had been doesn't play at all kek, hell i was one time on Noobs and excelsis and i was the only guy in that coalitions who played other things that wasn't EU+

Napisano przez I_Hate_You_All, 03.11.2021 at 21:51

Napisano przez sirivann, 03.11.2021 at 19:19

nigga, who the fuck are you, your clan has pmed me asking for cw ive told them to pick one of the dozens of maps aetius, pyrhus or dire have and you guys have responded with no xD

Why u guys dodge playing on FFA maps? Dont try to be ultra smart with me Siri, we both know that all the scenarios of Aetius, Phyrrhus and Dire, ranging from ancient based ones to others like the LOTR, WWI or Warhammer 40k have a lot of event units. Huarck and the boys in the clan will gladly cw yours on a FFA map like Destoria, Ancient or Nakarsia, etc there a shit ton of FFA maps that doesn't depend on events, just on skill of the player. Dont try to tell us that stacking a shit ton of trench unit in WWI is a super strat, the same from a russia who only spams walls to delay the event of East Prussia to go into their lands...

Also i dont know how to feel and how a player like me would fit in the standards of what is considered an AtWar Master because i have been playing scenario, ancient, colonial maps and EU+....and casual too lol (whose many of my clanmates or former clanmates in this or in another clans i had been doesn't play at all kek, hell i was one time on Noobs and excelsis and i was the only guy in that coalitions who played other things that wasn't EU+

I dont get your point, you ask me to play a scenario CW, i give you a wide range of different scenario maps made by the 3 mapmakers we in the scenario comunity consider to be the best and most fair, yet you counter it with the same maps you guys in competetive like playing that everyone knows we scenario players have no interest playing O.o.

If you wanna remain in your domain and play the maps you like thats fine, but dont come to scenario comunity and think we are gonna for some reason change our opinion for your noob ass xD.

Your trash in scenario comunity, no one has ever considered you good let alone a master, i have no clue how people view you in the competetive side, but thats how we all view you in scenario comunity xD. As for colonial map, wtf are you talking about using colonial map for a CW, a scenario CW has to be a map with 2 fixed teams with all picks chosen, scenarios are made to be played at full capacity not by fucking picking x amount of picks and leting rest of the game turn neutral. You will never see us play a scenario game with x picks missing for obvious reasons in a normal game, why would it be done in CW O.o....

Napisano przez sirivann, 03.11.2021 at 22:05

Napisano przez I_Hate_You_All, 03.11.2021 at 21:51

Napisano przez sirivann, 03.11.2021 at 19:19

nigga, who the fuck are you, your clan has pmed me asking for cw ive told them to pick one of the dozens of maps aetius, pyrhus or dire have and you guys have responded with no xD

Why u guys dodge playing on FFA maps? Dont try to be ultra smart with me Siri, we both know that all the scenarios of Aetius, Phyrrhus and Dire, ranging from ancient based ones to others like the LOTR, WWI or Warhammer 40k have a lot of event units. Huarck and the boys in the clan will gladly cw yours on a FFA map like Destoria, Ancient or Nakarsia, etc there a shit ton of FFA maps that doesn't depend on events, just on skill of the player. Dont try to tell us that stacking a shit ton of trench unit in WWI is a super strat, the same from a russia who only spams walls to delay the event of East Prussia to go into their lands...

Also i dont know how to feel and how a player like me would fit in the standards of what is considered an AtWar Master because i have been playing scenario, ancient, colonial maps and EU+....and casual too lol (whose many of my clanmates or former clanmates in this or in another clans i had been doesn't play at all kek, hell i was one time on Noobs and excelsis and i was the only guy in that coalitions who played other things that wasn't EU+

I dont get your point, you ask me to play a scenario CW, i give you a wide range of different scenario maps made by the 3 mapmakers we in the scenario comunity consider to be the best and most fair, yet you counter it with the same maps you guys in competetive like playing that everyone knows we scenario players have no interest playing O.o.

If you wanna remain in your domain and play the maps you like thats fine, but dont come to scenario comunity and think we are gonna for some reason change our opinion for your noob ass xD.

Your trash in scenario comunity, no one has ever considered you good let alone a master, wtf are you talking about using colonial map for CW, a scenario CW has to be a map with 2 fixed teams with all picks chosen, they are made to be played at full capacity not by fucking picking x amount of picks and leting rest of the game turn neutral.

The point is that you relly on events, and as i said u can not toy with me cause i already know all of the scenarios you guys usually play. You one time tried to had cw with us on Rise of Rome: Rebellion who all we knows isn't a ballanced scenario at all, and what i have tried to get the point on you guys is that you DODGE FFA MAPS, any kind of those maps u reject to play a cw on it. Hell, you even refuse an ancient CW who, as far as all of the competitive guys know, is one of the better alternative maps to do cw's. And yes i keep my point on this, spamming a lot of units who spawn of nowhere isn't competitive. Also, ask WD or any other guys on comp side and they even cw'd many years ago on Destorio or other of the maps i have been menction to you.

Other thing that i quite not see why you aggressive to me when we used to be friends long time ago when i was on The Empire, the last point that i menctioned is that i still dont know how a player like me who plays ALL kinds of things would fit on the actual definition of AW Master (EU+, etc) i think you misunderstood that last point because i was talking in general, not towards my clan or me being a master on scenarios.

Napisano przez I_Hate_You_All, 03.11.2021 at 22:24

Napisano przez sirivann, 03.11.2021 at 22:05

Napisano przez I_Hate_You_All, 03.11.2021 at 21:51

Napisano przez sirivann, 03.11.2021 at 19:19

nigga, who the fuck are you, your clan has pmed me asking for cw ive told them to pick one of the dozens of maps aetius, pyrhus or dire have and you guys have responded with no xD

Why u guys dodge playing on FFA maps? Dont try to be ultra smart with me Siri, we both know that all the scenarios of Aetius, Phyrrhus and Dire, ranging from ancient based ones to others like the LOTR, WWI or Warhammer 40k have a lot of event units. Huarck and the boys in the clan will gladly cw yours on a FFA map like Destoria, Ancient or Nakarsia, etc there a shit ton of FFA maps that doesn't depend on events, just on skill of the player. Dont try to tell us that stacking a shit ton of trench unit in WWI is a super strat, the same from a russia who only spams walls to delay the event of East Prussia to go into their lands...

Also i dont know how to feel and how a player like me would fit in the standards of what is considered an AtWar Master because i have been playing scenario, ancient, colonial maps and EU+....and casual too lol (whose many of my clanmates or former clanmates in this or in another clans i had been doesn't play at all kek, hell i was one time on Noobs and excelsis and i was the only guy in that coalitions who played other things that wasn't EU+

I dont get your point, you ask me to play a scenario CW, i give you a wide range of different scenario maps made by the 3 mapmakers we in the scenario comunity consider to be the best and most fair, yet you counter it with the same maps you guys in competetive like playing that everyone knows we scenario players have no interest playing O.o.

If you wanna remain in your domain and play the maps you like thats fine, but dont come to scenario comunity and think we are gonna for some reason change our opinion for your noob ass xD.

Your trash in scenario comunity, no one has ever considered you good let alone a master, wtf are you talking about using colonial map for CW, a scenario CW has to be a map with 2 fixed teams with all picks chosen, they are made to be played at full capacity not by fucking picking x amount of picks and leting rest of the game turn neutral.

The point is that you relly on events, and as i said u can not toy with me cause i already know all of the scenarios you guys usually play. You one time tried to had cw with us on Rise of Rome: Rebellion who all we knows isn't a ballanced scenario at all, and what i have tried to get the point on you guys is that you DODGE FFA MAPS, any kind of those maps u reject to play a cw on it. Hell, you even refuse an ancient CW who, as far as all of the competitive guys know, is one of the better alternative maps to do cw's. And yes i keep my point on this, spamming a lot of units who spawn of nowhere isn't competitive. Also, ask WD or any other guys on comp side and they even cw'd many years ago on Destorio or other of the maps i have been menction to you.

Other thing that i quite not see why you aggressive to me when we used to be friends long time ago when i was on The Empire, the last point that i menctioned is that i still dont know how a player like me who plays ALL kinds of things would fit on the actual definition of AW Master (EU+, etc) i think you misunderstood that last point because i was talking in general, not towards my clan or me being a master on scenarios.

My dude, Those maps you consider FFA maps are not the maps we play in the scenario comunity, why are you trying to impose on us maps we will never play normaly let alone for a cw, just to play vs your ass xD. as for rome rebelion, i suggested that map because you only had 3 players available i told you we could play 2 games and switch sides or change to another map and your repsonse was that your players just dont play these kinda maps which is completly fine, you have your domain of maps and we in scenario comunity have ours. Why are you coming to me trying to impose the maps i and the rest of the scenario comunity have openly said they dont play or have a interest in playing for years xD.

Ah yea i thought you were calling yourself a master in scenarios, my bad xD that caught me off guard since youve always been the kind to be seen in scenarios maps like GGG , colonial and that ww2 map i think you made. Im not trying to sound agressive its just how i always type, your ass should know that with the chats we have had over the years nigga psssss.

Napisano przez I_Hate_You_All, 03.11.2021 at 22:24

The point is that you relly on events, and as i said u can not toy with me cause i already know all of the scenarios you guys usually play. You one time tried to had cw with us on Rise of Rome: Rebellion who all we knows isn't a ballanced scenario at all, and what i have tried to get the point on you guys is that you DODGE FFA MAPS, any kind of those maps u reject to play a cw on it. Hell, you even refuse an ancient CW who, as far as all of the competitive guys know, is one of the better alternative maps to do cw's. And yes i keep my point on this, spamming a lot of units who spawn of nowhere isn't competitive. Also, ask WD or any other guys on comp side and they even cw'd many years ago on Destorio or other of the maps i have been menction to you.

Other thing that i quite not see why you aggressive to me when we used to be friends long time ago when i was on The Empire, the last point that i menctioned is that i still dont know how a player like me who plays ALL kinds of things would fit on the actual definition of AW Master (EU+, etc) i think you misunderstood that last point because i was talking in general, not towards my clan or me being a master on scenarios.

Thing is FFA and all destoria things are some what like world map where you go on expanding in neutral lands for hours, the fact you consider those ffa maps as scenario is an insult to scenario maps.

It's like Tokugawa making his own scen ancient map using some fixed pics.