Iraqis rejoice over the death of Soleimani

Show respect for this great man.
He spend his whole life serving his great country .

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qasem_Soleimani

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RIP General Qasem Soleimani

As funny as this is, I don't like the idea of mods editing peoples posts. It's overstepping a serious boundary. My view of Spicer should be well known, but it isn't right to edit his comments. He's said some horrible and untrue things about me, and I could display a laundry list of critiques of his worldview and his hypocrisy, but now is not the time. Whatever is left of this forum will die out quickly if peoples posts can just be edited on a whim by a mod. If a post is deleted for breaking a rule, that's one thing, but to put words in others peoples mouths is another. What's to stop the same happening to me or anyone else? I can see this getting out of hand and pissing people off. I like this tiny slice of the internet and while it certainly will not last forever, I'd prefer we didn't speed up its entropy.

If it didn't break any rules, revert it back to what it was, and don't do it again.

Napisano przez Tik-Tok, 08.01.2020 at 23:40

As funny as this is, I don't like the idea of mods editing peoples posts. It's overstepping a serious boundary. My view of Spicer should be well known, but it isn't right to edit his comments. He's said some horrible and untrue things about me, and I could display a laundry list of critiques of his worldview and his hypocrisy, but now is not the time. Whatever is left of this forum will die out quickly if peoples posts can just be edited on a whim by a mod. If a post is deleted for breaking a rule, that's one thing, but to put words in others peoples mouths is another. What's to stop the same happening to me or anyone else? I can see this getting out of hand and pissing people off. I like this tiny slice of the internet and while it certainly will not last forever, I'd prefer we didn't speed up its entropy.

If it didn't break any rules, revert it back to what it was, and don't do it again.

Agreed, it's a shame that some mods these days are trying to remove any sort of post deemed "offensive" or "uncivil" in an attempt to adhere to a standard that simply won't work in a game with less than a couple hundred active players.

Huh, mods changed? I thought it was Sean trying to be sarcastic or something

Napisano przez Zephyrusu, 09.01.2020 at 09:54

Huh, mods changed? I thought it was Sean trying to be sarcastic or something

Thats what happened, tiktok is overthinking like a tard

Napisano przez 4nic, 09.01.2020 at 10:43

Napisano przez Zephyrusu, 09.01.2020 at 09:54

Huh, mods changed? I thought it was Sean trying to be sarcastic or something

Thats what happened, tiktok is overthinking like a tard

This is what happens when mods go out of their way to modify people's posts without notification/warning. Now any sarcastic post could potentially be the result of a mod editing. I dont understand why mods are so restrictive in a forum with less than 30 active users.

Napisano przez Tundy, 09.01.2020 at 11:54

Napisano przez 4nic, 09.01.2020 at 10:43

Napisano przez Zephyrusu, 09.01.2020 at 09:54

Huh, mods changed? I thought it was Sean trying to be sarcastic or something

Thats what happened, tiktok is overthinking like a tard

This is what happens when mods go out of their way to modify people's posts without notification/warning. Now any sarcastic post could potentially be the result of a mod editing. I dont understand why mods are so restrictive in a forum with less than 30 active users.

Too bad no one edited this post, it was the usual sean spicer spergpost, plus the only person mods edit message to is unleashed, and its funny as hell

Napisano przez 4nic, 09.01.2020 at 11:56

Too bad no one edited this post, it was the usual sean spicer spergpost, plus the only person mods edit message to is unleashed, and its funny as hell

Napisano przez 4nic, 09.01.2020 at 10:43

Thats what happened, tiktok is overthinking like a tard

If this is the case, then my apologies to mods. I thought only mods could edit titles. I have never tried so I just checked and realised you can edit topic titles, coupled with editing of Unleashed posts, I just assumed mods edited it. I don't think they should edit Unleashed posts before they remove them either.

Just a note... as far as i know, no mods edited this... if it has been, let me or another mod know.


Occasionally mods will also edit an obscenity that would have resulted in a deletion... so for instance, if a player writes a wall of text but somewhere in it there is a single explitive that would result in deletion, the word might be sanitized rather than the entire post being deleted. this is usually accompanied with a message to the writer (though i must admit occasionally i have just changed the word if it's someone i've already messaged in the past... this is most common for the use of racial/ethnic/religious slurs.)

Napisano przez brianwl, 09.01.2020 at 16:43

Just a note... as far as i know, no mods edited this... if it has been, let me or another mod know.


Occasionally mods will also edit an obscenity that would have resulted in a deletion... so for instance, if a player writes a wall of text but somewhere in it there is a single explitive that would result in deletion, the word might be sanitized rather than the entire post being deleted. this is usually accompanied with a message to the writer (though i must admit occasionally i have just changed the word if it's someone i've already messaged in the past... this is most common for the use of racial/ethnic/religious slurs.)

Typically if I remove a message but someone has quoted it in their own, I'll remove the quote. But other than that and unleashed, messages never really get edited.

Unleashed is the only person who's messages got edited like that because he shouldn't be on here whatsoever, so it doesn't make much of a difference if I turn it into something positive.

I've sent Sid several private messages, and he responded to none of them. He probably chose not to respond because he knows that his standard is 1. inconsistent, 2. immoral, and 3. ineffective. Let me make my case clear:

If I write a post entitled: "Austere German scholar, Adolf Hitler, killed; some sick people rejoice," post a video of Americans rejoicing, and write about how sick and twisted Americans are, then would my post be deleted? I'll tell you what's sick, the nonexistent standard mods have on this forum. I am going to rename this post to "Iraqis rejoice over the death of Soleimani," and before you delete it AGAIN, I want an answer regarding why you would delete it. I want an answer that addresses my concerns.

I'm offended by most of what people say on this website. I'm offended by Tik-Tok, I'm offended by Helly, I'm offended by C_Sharp, and I have feelings too. Does that mean their posts should be deleted? Does that mean all offensive content should be deleted? Even if the content consists of an objective truth? Should I be allowed to post the truth, even if the truth is offensive? I want someone to answer these questions, because I'm sick and tired of being ignored by this dystopian, decrepit administration incapable of answering to the truth. Where is the logic? This is a fucking dictatorship.

I find it really shameful how in order to post the truth I have to write it under a veil of satire. It's really quite pathetic that I have to try to be "funny" in order make a very serious point: Iraqis rejoice in the wake of a terrorist's death. I don't understand how an Iranian could be offended by this post when Iran could shut down their internet at any moment, thus kicking them off atWar. The previous post I made said: "Iraqis rejoice over the death of Soleimani," and this post consists of the same exact content as that post, the only difference is that I've reversed the roles. Instead of praising the Free People of Iraq, I'm praising a terrorist of Iran. People should know the full story about Soleimani, they should be expoed to the truth, and not what Iran tells them the truth is. It is true that Iraqis rejoiced over the death of Soleimani. There is a video illustrating this fact, and I should be allowed to show people this video. Just as the Soviets rejoiced over the death of Hitler, just as Americans rejoiced over the death of Stalin, just as Persians rejoiced over the death of John McCain, I should be allowed to show a video of a free people rejoicing over the death of a terrorist who was involved in the murdering of thousands of soldiers and civilians, and I should be allowed to say it was, in my opinion, a GOOD thing. It's a GOOD thing that a terrorist died. A MAN WHO KILLED MY PEOPLE! A MAN WHO KILLED THOUSANDS OF MORE PEOPLE THAN OSAMA BIN LADEN EVER KILLED, AND I'M SUPPOSED TO SIT IDLY BY AND ACCEPT HIM AS MY GOD???

There are some Germans today who would consider a video condemning their former dictator, Adolf Hitler, to be of bad taste. Would you remove a video of Soviets rejoicing over the death of Hitler? What makes an Iranian different from a German? They're both people who have had genocidal maniacs as their leaders. It's pathetic, a-factual, a-historical, a-moral. Pathetic.

Napisano przez Tribune Aquila, 10.01.2020 at 17:37

It is true that Iraqis rejoiced over the death of Soleimani.

Yes because we all know that Iraq is a solitary and homogeneous country and totally not a diverse state with many differing groups and parties, all of whom have different opinions and stances on all issues, including their opinion of Iran and Soleimani.

Napisano przez Zephyrusu, 10.01.2020 at 19:01

Napisano przez Tribune Aquila, 10.01.2020 at 17:37

It is true that Iraqis rejoiced over the death of Soleimani.

Yes because we all know that Iraq is a solitary and homogeneous country and totally not a diverse state with many differing groups and parties, all of whom have different opinions and stances on all issues, including their opinion of Iran and Soleimani.

Many Iranians also celebrated Soleimani's death. I don't understand why many people in the West have suddenly become Iran's defense attorneys despite all the crimes and atrocities that Iran is indirectly and directly responsible for. Soleimani was responsible for the deaths and injuries of thousands of Americans. He, and Iran are responsible for the chaos in Yemen. Soleimani and Iran are important factor in the tens if not hundreds of thousands of casualties in Syria since the start of the Syrian civil war. He planned the attack on the US embassy in Libya that caused the death of several Americans including the US ambassador to Libya. The protests in Iraq against the Iranian presence have taken the lives of more than a few hundred civilians by Iranian-backed Shiite militias tuned by Soleimani. And many other things.

It seems that the reason most people support and protect Iran is because of anti-Semitism, or because the person who ordered him to be eliminted was Trump and everything Trump would do they would be automaticlly against it. Just a little over month ago the Iranian regime killed over 1500 civilians that protested against the Iranian regime, wounded an unknown number of civilians, arrested tens of thousands and there are thousands more still to be found.

And that's what Suleimani told Iraqi officials:

"we in iran know how to deal with protesters." "This happened in Iran and we got it under control."
https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2020/01/qassem-soleimani-death-missed/604396/


Without mentioning that only a few months after the Iranian revolution, in 1979, the Iranian government encouraged the masses to break into the US Embassy in Iran and take dozens of American diplomats captive for no justifiable reason.
Are responsible for the attack on US embassy in Lebanon, that killed 63 people including 17 Americans. The same year half a year later they killed almost 300 American marines, and dozen troops from different countries, in terror attack, through proxies, in Lebanon in the 80s.
And also Iran was responsible for terrorist attacks world wide and tried to do more but failed because of good intelligence.

Let's not forget in 2016, Iran seized an American navy to humiliate America and freed them and then received over 1 billion dollars and thanks from the Obama administration.
And the fact that Iran is executing gays. Should be enough of a reason not to support it or defend it.


And, according to Soleimani's calls interception, he planned to burn the embassy in Iraq and do the same thing they did in Iran in Iraq through proxies. And not just in Iraq.

His elimination was justified, right, and necessary for the security of the region and the security of the United States and the security of the entire world. And the people who are glad he is no longer alive have every right to celebrate especially if they are in the Middle East, the front that absorbs all the damage of Iran's hegemonic attempts.

https://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/u-s-marines-deployed-to-lebanon
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/iraq-protests-baghdad-death-toll-shooting-a9145716.html
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2020/01/03/qasem-soleimani-helped-shape-brutality-syrian-war/
https://www.inss.org.il/publication/model-iranian-influence-syria/
https://www.ict.org.il/Article/2458/Iran_and_the_Houthi_in_Yemen_(2019)#gsc.tab=0
https://fortune.com/2016/09/07/us-iran-billion-hostages-arms-deal/
https://ncr-iran.org/en/news/iran-protests/27168-people-in-iran-and-across-the-globe-celebrate-qassem-soleimani-s-death
https://www.i24news.tv/en/news/international/middle-east/1577110598-about-1-500-killed-in-iran-crackdown-ordered-by-supreme-leader-reuters

Napisano przez Abraham, 11.01.2020 at 05:06

Since I've basically replied to this line of argument to Sean already I'll just copy-paste what I told him in another thread

Napisano przez Zephyrusu, 06.01.2020 at 09:07

Justice? Really? Just how much are you deluding yourself? We're talking about the country where the US installed a monarchy through a coup because its democratically elected government wanted to nationalise its oil, then turned said country into its puppet for 20 years, then when said country retaliated the US decided to isolate it diplomatically, politically and economically, even supporting Iraq's invasion of Iran (Yes, that's what the Iran-Iraq war was, Iraq invading Iran, and the US supporting it.).
The moment a single US citizen dies in Iraq, with shaky evidence at best the US decide to carry out an airstrike against a militant Iraqi group they deemed responsible, a member of Iraq's Popular Mobilisation Units who were one of the main factors in the defeat of ISIS in Iraq. Said airstrikes killed 25 people. Then, when Iraqi people protested the murder of 25 of their countrymen in a protest, admittedly a violent protest, but, the US airstrikes were a hundred times more violent if you ask me, the US decide to assassinate Iran's second most important military figure, a man who's spent most of his military career fighting Salafist extremist groups (many of which the US had funded beforehand) on the accusation of "terrorism". Now, ameribots like you may just see this as "durr Iranian dictatorship is evil because they did this and that durr" but let me lay out the real situation for you to see:

-The Middle East is locked in a long-standing proxy conflict between the Saudis and Iran. The pattern in recent years is that Iran's been supporting stable and organised governments (be they democratic like Iraq's or autocratic like Syria's), while the Saudis have been supporting Jihadist militant groups such as Tahrir al-Sham in Syria, a literal Al-Qaeda offshoot, that, unsurprisingly, tend to turn their countries into war-infested shitholes. The US has decided to align itself with Saudi Arabia in this conflict, and to this day the Saudis are the US' second closest ally in the Middle East, after Israel. That's right, the US is backing an ABSOLUTE MONARCHY, in the 21ST FUCKING CENTURY, the monarchy that's been known to be the world's largest sponsor of terrorism. And as we speak the Saudis' balls are tingling with delight at the thought of the US bombing or invading Iran. So no, this is not the US "fighting evil dictatorships" (to begin with, Iran has a rather complex, semi-democratic system, that in practice has two leaders of more or less equal power, and one of the two is democratically elected, more than I can say about the Saudis), this is the US picking a side in the battle between two autocratic powers. And they picked the Saudis because Iran was unwilling to be their sex toy after they decided to turn it from a democracy into a monarchy. So evil.

-It's been proven repeatedly in recent years that deposing a dictatorship forcefully in the Middle East just doesn't work. It was seen in Libya (where the US destroyed the country by killing its "evil dicktator", the man who had turned Libya from a colonial shithole into the finest state in all of Africa), it was seen in Iraq (where deposing Saddam just lead to a violent civil war and the rise of ISIS), it was seen in Syria (with the Syrian rebellion soon becoming an army of Jihad), and yet you support the same practice again, because it would seem that the US never learns. I guess killing "mad dictators" is worth it even if you sacrifice the rest of the country to do it.

I see no justice here. I see the US wanting to have everyone under their boot.

Napisano przez Zephyrusu, 11.01.2020 at 05:59

Napisano przez Abraham, 11.01.2020 at 05:06

Since I've basically replied to this line of argument to Sean already I'll just copy-paste what I told him in another thread

Napisano przez Zephyrusu, 06.01.2020 at 09:07

Justice? Really? Just how much are you deluding yourself? We're talking about the country where the US installed a monarchy through a coup because its democratically elected government wanted to nationalise its oil, then turned said country into its puppet for 20 years, then when said country retaliated the US decided to isolate it diplomatically, politically and economically, even supporting Iraq's invasion of Iran (Yes, that's what the Iran-Iraq war was, Iraq invading Iran, and the US supporting it.).
The moment a single US citizen dies in Iraq, with shaky evidence at best the US decide to carry out an airstrike against a militant Iraqi group they deemed responsible, a member of Iraq's Popular Mobilisation Units who were one of the main factors in the defeat of ISIS in Iraq. Said airstrikes killed 25 people. Then, when Iraqi people protested the murder of 25 of their countrymen in a protest, admittedly a violent protest, but, the US airstrikes were a hundred times more violent if you ask me, the US decide to assassinate Iran's second most important military figure, a man who's spent most of his military career fighting Salafist extremist groups (many of which the US had funded beforehand) on the accusation of "terrorism". Now, ameribots like you may just see this as "durr Iranian dictatorship is evil because they did this and that durr" but let me lay out the real situation for you to see:

-The Middle East is locked in a long-standing proxy conflict between the Saudis and Iran. The pattern in recent years is that Iran's been supporting stable and organised governments (be they democratic like Iraq's or autocratic like Syria's), while the Saudis have been supporting Jihadist militant groups such as Tahrir al-Sham in Syria, a literal Al-Qaeda offshoot, that, unsurprisingly, tend to turn their countries into war-infested shitholes. The US has decided to align itself with Saudi Arabia in this conflict, and to this day the Saudis are the US' second closest ally in the Middle East, after Israel. That's right, the US is backing an ABSOLUTE MONARCHY, in the 21ST FUCKING CENTURY, the monarchy that's been known to be the world's largest sponsor of terrorism. And as we speak the Saudis' balls are tingling with delight at the thought of the US bombing or invading Iran. So no, this is not the US "fighting evil dictatorships" (to begin with, Iran has a rather complex, semi-democratic system, that in practice has two leaders of more or less equal power, and one of the two is democratically elected, more than I can say about the Saudis), this is the US picking a side in the battle between two autocratic powers. And they picked the Saudis because Iran was unwilling to be their sex toy after they decided to turn it from a democracy into a monarchy. So evil.

-It's been proven repeatedly in recent years that deposing a dictatorship forcefully in the Middle East just doesn't work. It was seen in Libya (where the US destroyed the country by killing its "evil dicktator", the man who had turned Libya from a colonial shithole into the finest state in all of Africa), it was seen in Iraq (where deposing Saddam just lead to a violent civil war and the rise of ISIS), it was seen in Syria (with the Syrian rebellion soon becoming an army of Jihad), and yet you support the same practice again, because it would seem that the US never learns. I guess killing "mad dictators" is worth it even if you sacrifice the rest of the country to do it.

I see no justice here. I see the US wanting to have everyone under their boot.

United States turned a blind eye to the Iranian protest against the Iranian Shah and allowed Islamists to come to power after promises by Khomeini not to compromise Iran-US relations, after the Iranian revolution was complete they broke all promises to America and eventually took over The US Embassy in Iran, in 1979, and held the American diplomats hostage. A year later, Saddam claimed that Khuzistan, a province in Iran where most of its residents are Arabs and is rich in oil, is part of Iraq and has declared war on Iran and has received support from the US that saw Iran as an enemy and that is perfectly acceptable.
The fact that Iran, and it's proxies, participated in the war against ISIS doesn't mean that they did so to save the world. Iran has acted against ISIS because ISIS is a Sunni Islamic organization, Iran is a Shiite Muslim state, and these two factions of Islam have been in bloody conflict for over a thousand years. Iran's desire to eliminate this problem, called ISIS, and on the way to take control of Iraq and strengthen its control of Syria, are currently being used as a justification that Iran is innocent and important to the world's peace what is obviously wrong.
The protests of those Iraqis against the US embassy in Iraq were orchestrated by the Iranians with the help of pro-Iranian Shiite militias, and I suppose the leaders in the field who initiated and did these violent things that swept the other protesters were active in those militias.

For the rest of your claims about Saudi Arabia, you might want to read more on a topic such as petrodollar, and Iran's desire to control both Islamic and regional hegemony.

And Iran is not like most Arab countries. The Iranians have no tribal mentality in which every leader of a particular village decides to be the leader, and goes to a bloody war to come to power. There are a great number of Iranians who would push their country in the right direction once Iran's radical Islamic dictatorial regime is removed.

For decades, the Iranian regime has rooted an extreme ideology against the United States and also against Israel, which is about 2300 km away from Iran, and has no influence on it in any sense.
And all this despite the fact Israel helped Iran in the Iran and Iraq war. But according to Islam, and because there is an Islamic rule in Iran, Israel must be destroyed.
Removing the Iranian regime is an existential threat removal and that is of course totally justified.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahmoud_Ahmadinejad_and_Israel#Calls_for_destruction_of_Israel
https://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2016/06/05/5-jun-16-world-view-irans-khomeini-fooled-jimmy-carter-great-islamic-revolution/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_to_America
https://foreignpolicy.com/2019/12/04/syria-iraq-fight-for-isis-old-territory-just-beginning/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_the_2009_Iranian_election_protests

Napisano przez Tribune Aquila, 10.01.2020 at 17:37

... people who have had genocidal maniacs as their leaders. It's pathetic, a-factual, a-historical, a-moral. Pathetic.

i know it's hard to understand as the US never had such leaders...(not counting native Americans)