Duel season rules - ELO calculation

Hello everyone,
It seems that this season (probably previous ones as well, but I didn't take part at all) is quite filled with controversies...
I asked Mods about rules for duel season and answer was in short "none", seemingly only farming your own alt is forbidden...
I would therefore suggest we all think together how we can improve or come up with writen rules in order to make it more fun and fair. Here are a few thoughts/suggestions from my side:

1) Overall ELO is nowadays widely seen as meaningless, only seasonal matters for active duelists.

2) Remove the ability to request a duel in a "normal" game, or at least do not calculate these into seasonal ELO. I think the only people that would miss this feature are the ones abusing it (hint: you can find one in Top12, not a single 1v1 duel played all season...)

3) In case you start a duel, the victory settings should be locked by default Capture enemy capital 2 turns. This feature is abused too often, for instance I see on another top12 player him winning most of his duels in 2 turns (you read that right, 2 turns ). Same as 2) I quite don't see who would miss this feature in duels apart from the ones abusing it.

4) It seems the commonly accepted sportsmanship attitude when you open a duel is a) no rank limit b) you have to duel anyone that joins. as much as I agree with a) I disagree with b) because it greatly discourage high elo players to create duel games. This is because you put urself in a position where you would have to duel a very good player not active in dueling with a risk/reward ratio absolutely dismal (imagine dueling Clovis and u would earn 1.5 elos and lose 23.5, that doesn't seem very tempting, does it?)

5) to solve 4) I have 2 suggestions:
a) Implement an seasonnal elo limit on duel games (same as rank limit), I guess an acceptable limit would be about 100 elo difference as u get to win half of ur potential loss (8.6 vs 16.4). Accepting duels from lower seasonal elo should be at host discretion.
b) maybe make seasonnal elo gain/loss a mix between seasonnal and overall elo (that way u discourage less active players to duel not so active one), for instance you duel a high rank with a 1000 seasonnal elo, the basis of seasonnal gain/loss could be the average or overal elo and seasonnal vs ur average. Late in the season a high rank will not find anyone to duel with him as he has such a bad seasonnal elo...

6) show the seasonnal duel the same way as Clan war (ie match played, won/lost/ties, last duels played etc...)

That's all for today, I am awaiting all your (I am sure negative) comments :-)

Cheers

EDIT1: I guess I didnt make it clear, I am trying to raise the topic soon enough that we can reach some kind of conscencus before the beginning of next season, the current season will go on unchanged

Agree with you for the most part, the elo system is flawed. #2 and #3 should be implemented sooner rather than later. I think the community has been crying for an elo max/min so that duelers don't have to worry about having to turn ppl away and get a bad rep for saying no, so I hope this will be brought in soon (This would is pretty much the same as #5). Changes probably won't be made now since the season is coming to an end so I don't think they'd want to change anything. Hopefully next season we see some changes that will help the system.

Nothing negative here, good work

Napisano przez Heat Check, 12.02.2016 at 04:51

Agree with you for the most part, the elo system is flawed. #2 and #3 should be implemented sooner rather than later. I think the community has been crying for an elo max/min so that duelers don't have to worry about having to turn ppl away and get a bad rep for saying no, so I hope this will be brought in soon (This would is pretty much the same as #5). Changes probably won't be made now since the season is coming to an end so I don't think they'd want to change anything. Hopefully next season we see some changes that will help the system.

Nothing negative here, good work

About 5)a) I think what is needed is a seasonal min/max settings because as I was trying to point out with 1), most people don't really care about overall ELO, since u get a trophy for seasonal ELO, not overall one.

I would keep overall ELO for other purposes (such as balancing team games instead of ranks), but in terms of duel season overall elo is today absolutely irrelevant, unless we apply something like 5)b). Not even sure about that 5)b) proposal, I suppose 5)a) would be sufficient

Cheers, thanks for the positive feedback

Support 2, this was suggested before. Only farmers use that feature, ive over 500 duels and i have never initiated one that way.

3 i would just like the settings to be made more transparent to the player accepting the duel.

4/5 i support an elo limit, it has been suggested before, it would be better than a rank limit.

support 6.

Bump