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Napisano przez Dave, 13.10.2024 at 20:37

I'm hanging in for the hope that Trump will win and re-instate his economic policies of 2016. If that happens, we'll be okay. But if, God forbid, Harris wins, I'll almost certainly be bankrupt in the next year. My business cannot survive another year of Biden/Harris.

His tax laws are still in place, so imagine if Kamala won and next year she pushed forth more taxes on corporations. It would cost the price of goods to increase and make everyone's lives even worse. People also like to argue that their income didn't increase under Trump but they fail to recognize that under Trump, their purchasing power increased, which is what matters when buying goods and services.

I was specing two of my clanmates cwing when one of them lost his internet ~t4. Game was in my opinion 55/45 in Prestiges favor yet the game was too early to call (my opinion). Dominoz did lose his internet before hand and they had to remake, and in the remake he lost his internet due to a storm where he lives. Additionally, Dominoz did claim he had 3-4k to rush Ankara, which again shows that game was too early to call.

This was the situation in the game:


Additional info:
https://gyazo.com/371fd48cfb2e435bc796fcfc1de15524

What would you do?

Napisano przez Dave, 13.10.2024 at 19:57

Napisano przez Dominicano, 12.10.2024 at 12:21

I propose a bet button for 1v1, 2v2 or 3v3 games where players place their bet before starting the game and at the end of each game the winner or winners take the accumulated lot, I think that with something like this the competitive ones even the cw they would be more interesting....

Yes this is the plan. May be a few years before I get around to it though.

We would love for our suggestion to be taken into account, thank you for paying attention.

Yeah, the Democratic Party has been letting its own supporters down.

Napisano przez Oleg, 07.10.2024 at 10:20

Trump did nothing for the economy except give tax cuts for the top1%. It's an urban legend that Republicans do better with the economy, never actually happened.

Have to disagree. I'm not in the top 1% (at best I'm in the top 50% lol) but my taxes went down under Trump. Business was good under Trump... it was during his term I achieved the highest income I've ever earned, and was able to buy a house. Where interest rates are now, I would have zero chance of being able to do that today.

I'm old enough to have lived and worked through several up & down cycles of the economy. Clinton screwed things up in the late 90's with his interest rate hikes. Bush Jr. was the first president to actually lower our family's taxes in my lifetime, and the economy was mostly good during his time, until everything fell apart around 2008. Obama then comes in and does every wrong step, prolonging the recession and making it worse... he raised our taxes, and tacked on an $800/year Obamacare mandate that still makes my blood boil to this day. Finally Trump came in and got the government off our backs. Trump 2016-2020 was the best economic conditions I've ever had.

Now under Biden/Harris I'm quite literally on the verge of bankruptcy. My income has not increased since 2021, while my expenses have increased dramatically. My business is being squeezed by the Biden/Harris-caused inflation. (Why do you think I've been absent from atWar the last 2 years? I've been scrambling, working my ass off trying to make money, and still failing to get ahead....)

Any normal person who took a basic economics class could have foreseen massive inflation would be the inevitable result of the Biden/Harris economic policies (i.e. printing money like there's no tomorrow.... how'd that work out for Germany in the 1930's? Or Argentina in the 2010's?)

I'm hanging in for the hope that Trump will win and re-instate his economic policies of 2016. If that happens, we'll be okay. But if, God forbid, Harris wins, I'll almost certainly be bankrupt in the next year. My business cannot survive another year of Biden/Harris.

Bill Ackman, a man who previously supported democrats, has written an OUTSTANDING post on X detailing the 33 reasons why he is now supporting Trump. (I encourage you to read the full post here: https://x.com/BillAckman/status/1844802469680873747).

Cytuj:

While the 33 actions I describe below are those of the Democratic Party and the Biden/Harris administration, they are also the actions and policies that unfortunately our most aggressive adversaries would likely implement if they wanted to destroy America from within, and had the ability to take control of our leadership.

These are the 33:

(1) open the borders to millions of immigrants who were not screened for their risk to the country, dumping them into communities where the new immigrants overwhelm existing communities and the infrastructure to support the new entrants, at the expense of the historic residents,

(2) introduce economic policies and massively increase spending without regard to their impact on inflation and the consequences for low-income Americans and the increase in our deficit and national debt,

(3) withdraw from Afghanistan, abandoning our local partners and the civilians who worked alongside us in an unprepared, overnight withdrawal that led to American casualties and destroyed the lives of Afghani women and girls for generations, against the strong advice of our military leadership, and thereafter not showing appropriate respect for their loss at a memorial ceremony in their honor,

(4) introduce thousands of new and unnecessary regulations in light of the existing regulatory regime that interfere with our businesses' ability to compete, restraining the development of desperately needed housing, infrastructure, and energy production with the associated inflationary effects,

(5) modify the bail system so that violent criminals are released without bail,

(6) destroy our street retailers and communities and promote lawlessness by making shoplifting (except above large thresholds) no longer a criminal offense,

(7) limit and/or attempt to limit or ban fracking and LNG so that U.S. energy costs increase substantially and the U.S. loses its energy independence,

(8) promote DEI ideologies that award jobs, awards, and university admissions on the basis of race, sexual identity and gender criteria, and teach our students and citizens that the world can only be understood as an unfair battle between oppressors and the oppressed, where the oppressors are only successful due to structural racism or a rigged system and the oppressed are simply victims of an unfair system and world,

(9) educate our elementary children that gender is fluid, something to be chosen by a child, and promote hormone blockers and gender reassignment surgeries to our youth without regard to the longer-term consequences to their mental and physical health, and allow biological boys and men to compete in girls and women's sports, depriving girls and women of scholarships, awards, and other opportunities that they would have rightly earned otherwise,

(10) encourage and celebrate massive protests and riots that lead to the burning and destruction of local retail and business establishments while at the same time requiring schools to be shuttered because of the risk of Covid-19 spreading during large gatherings,

(11) encourage and celebrate anti-American and anti-Israel protests and flag burning on campuses around the country with no consequences for the protesters who violate laws or university codes and policies,

(12) allow antisemitism to explode with no serious efforts from the administration to quell this hatred,

(13) mandate vaccines that have not been adequately tested nor have their risks been properly considered compared with the potential benefits adjusted for the age and health of the individual, censoring the contrary advice of top scientists around the world,

(14) shut down free speech in media and on social media platforms that is inconsistent with government policies and objectives,

(15) use the U.S., state, and local legal systems to attack and attempt to jail, take off the campaign trail, and/or massively fine candidates for the presidency without regard to the merits or precedential issues of the case,

(16) seek to defund the police and promote anti-police rhetoric causing a loss of confidence in those who are charged with protecting us,

(17) use government funds to subsidize auto companies and internet providers with vastly more expensive, dated and/or lower-quality technology when greatly superior and cheaper alternatives are available from companies that are owned and/or managed by individuals not favored by the current administration,

(18) mandate in legislation and otherwise government solutions to problems when the private sector can do a vastly better, faster, and cheaper job,

(19) seek to ban gas-powered cars and stoves without regard to the economic and practical consequences of doing so,

(20) take no serious actions when 45 American citizens are killed by terrorists and 12 are taken hostage,

(21) hold back armaments and weaponry from our most important ally in the Middle East in the midst of their hostage negotiations, hostages who include American citizens who have now been held for more than one year,

(22) eliminate sanctions on one of our most dangerous enemies enabling them to generate $150 billion+ of cash reserves from oil sales, which they can then use to fund terrorist proxy organizations who attack us and our allies. Exchange five American hostages held by Iran for five Iranians plus $6 billion of cash in the worst hostage negotiation in history setting a disastrous and dangerous precedent,

(23) remove known terrorist organizations from the terrorist list so we can provide aid to their people, and allow them to shoot rockets at U.S. assets and military bases with little if any military response from us,

(24) lie to the American people about the cognitive health of the president and accuse those who provide video evidence of his decline of sharing doctored videos and being right wing conspirators,

(25) do nothing about the deteriorating health of our citizens driven by the food industrial complex, the fraudulent USDA food pyramid, and the inclusion of ingredients in our food that are banned by other countries around the world which are more protective of their citizens,

(26) do nothing about the proliferation of new vaccines that are not properly analyzed for their risk versus the potential benefit for healthy children who are mandated to receive them,

(27) do nothing about the continued exemption from liability for the pharma industry that has led to a proliferation of mandatory vaccines for children without considering the potential cumulative effects of the now mandated 72-shot regime,

(28) convince our minority youth that they are victims of a rigged system and that the American dream is not available to them,

(29) fail to provide adequate Secret Service protection for alternative presidential candidates,

(30) litigate to prevent alternative candidates from getting on the ballot, and take other anti-competitive steps including threatening political consultants who wish to work for alternative candidates for the presidency, and limit the potential media access for other candidates by threatening the networks' future access to the administration and access to 'scoops' if they platform an alternative candidate,

(31) select the Democratic nominee for president in a backroom process by undisclosed party leaders without allowing Americans to choose between candidates in an open primary,

(32) choose an inferior candidate for the presidency when other much more qualified candidates are available and interested to serve,

(33) litigate to make it illegal for states to require proof of citizenship, voter ID, and/or residence in order to vote at a time when many Americans have lost confidence in the accuracy and trustworthiness of our voting system.

Napisano przez Dominicano, 12.10.2024 at 12:21

I propose a bet button for 1v1, 2v2 or 3v3 games where players place their bet before starting the game and at the end of each game the winner or winners take the accumulated lot, I think that with something like this the competitive ones even the cw they would be more interesting....

Yes this is the plan. May be a few years before I get around to it though.

Overall khauman, in west lulush
Lulush is better broadcaster though

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Okay thank you my friend, the name of the map is : " Le Pourfendeur's map 3"

Normaly the fighters are not locked behind upgrades i think

tell me if you see anything special with this map,

thank you

I just want to apologize to the Atwar community for my past actions. I know back in the day I was known for RPing and for well, being relentless in wars and taking games way too personal. To whoever suffered my annoying rants, to whoever I've offended in the past with my political talks, to whoever was offended by my affiliation with Adolph (I was 14 and had no idea who they were RPing as) I want to tell you I'm sorry. I apologize for cheating (I'd spend all game walling and stacking money and troops- wait for two players to fight, then kill them both - I know its not cheating but they were very easy victories and looking back definitely felt like cheating) I apologize for kill stealing, I apologize for having my clan mates join games, fund me, and then killing everyone, I apologize for taking every city except the capital to SP farm, I apologize for abusing weaker players, and I apologize for my role in the RP community. I know RPs were popular, but I cant help but feel partly responsible for the games current state of affairs. I know there were thousands who did the same as me, and I know in hindsight there's no need to apologize - its just a game, but my teen years this game brought me great comfort. the players didn't know me, but still some of my fondest memories are with you lot- I wish I could turn back time, to the good old days - I wish I could take back all the dumb and mean stuff I said to people, I wish I was nicer to newbies, I know it doesn't really matter, but some of you guys were my closest friends. I know most will never read this- but I love At-war and I love the community. Please forgive my behavior. I love you all and hope that someday- this game will be back up and running like old times. in real life- I was going through a ton of hardship. My father passed away, my mother and I grew distant, I was poor, I was angry, I was alone, I was scared, but everyday I'd escape reality for a few hours, I had laughs, I had amazing conversations with some of you, I grew to feel like the only family I had was you guys. I look back and smile fondly. then I see most of everyone I knew has been gone for years and it saddens me. god bless you all.

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Number 2 fren (dominoz #1) and also has to travel to the rio de la plata to get water (inside joke)

Napisano przez Oleg, 12.10.2024 at 17:10

Napisano przez Palmitas, 12.10.2024 at 17:04

"self-serbwall", which would in fact not be legal (he said it!).

Serbwall is completely destroying enemy 3 unit wall and making your own wall around the same city the same turn. I have no idea how situation in the screenshot would be "self-serbwall".

Mechanically, what happened was like the inverse of a serbwall, but obviously looking at the ss it was done my accident (as I said before) so that's what I had observed. It was also obvious you tried to do a huarck wall, which is legal.

Napisano przez Palmitas, 12.10.2024 at 17:18

u really quoted the dumbest part of what i said to get a reply huh.
That was said by tempest. If you disagree, talk to him. Funny how thats the only thing u quoted, and it's not something i said.

The remainder of your message felt more opinion-based, and I don't think there would be much value to me replying. It seems we'd just be going in circles - like debating whether a melon is a fruit or a vegetable. As the master of off topic balkan flamewars, I know when to stop.
I see that we have different perspectives on the matter of legality of huarck wall, and I respect that. In my eyes, it is not sketchy, and as I said I approve of the move. You don't think so. It looks like we're at an impasse, and there's no need to escalate this further. For me, this topic is now closed. Let's move forward peacefully, even if we disagree.

Napisano przez Palmitas, 12.10.2024 at 17:04

ps: U edited ur post zzz, I won't answer any of your bullcrap again. For me this issue is done, and you are defending the indefendable.

Napisano przez Oleg, 12.10.2024 at 17:10

Napisano przez Palmitas, 12.10.2024 at 17:04

"self-serbwall", which would in fact not be legal (he said it!).

Serbwall is completely destroying enemy 3 unit wall and making your own wall around the same city the same turn. I have no idea how situation in the screenshot would be "self-serbwall".

u really quoted the dumbest part of what i said to get a reply huh.
That was said by tempest. If you disagree, talk to him. Funny how thats the only thing u quoted, and it's not something i said.

Napisano przez Palmitas, 12.10.2024 at 17:04

"self-serbwall", which would in fact not be legal (he said it!).

Serbwall is completely destroying enemy 3 unit wall and making your own wall around the same city the same turn. I have no idea how situation in the screenshot would be "self-serbwall".

Napisano przez Oleg, 12.10.2024 at 16:36

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I don't understand why you're maintaining this hostility toward me, but feel free to continue your witch-hunt and boycott if that's what makes you happy.

"I'm not sure why you're trying to create conflict here. I simply responded to your comments in your post. I clearly stated that I don't approve of wf t1, rewall, or serbwall, but I do use and approve of the Huarck wall when used against me." I responded to your comments aswell. I don't know what the end of this paragraph has to do with what i said, but I can say I do not approve the use of the Huarckwall when used against me.

"You're free to boycott CWs with me if you wish, but consider whether it's smart or justified." Smart? Yes because I won't accept playing against someone that is sketchy. Justified? OFC.

"The competitive scene survives thanks to just 10 active players, and your reason for boycotting seems to be that you lost." That's not the reason i'm boycotting and it just seems that u are completly forgotting the main post. 10 active players? I can count more than that.
Belligerent 5: Me, Niels, Panda , IHY and Zappa,
BD 2 : Blade, Dominicano
Hellenism 4: Brutal, Khauman, Almighty and Lokua
Enigma 3: Tempest, Dominoz, Lucifer
Prestige 7: Tung, Alpen, 1122, Vink, BeSerok, Styx Doktor and you.
Paradox 2: Lelouch, Croat.
That is 23 players. 24 If u count Kogi who just deleted his account. This was off the top of my head, Could have missed someone aswell. 23 players in the scene and you still do sketchy things for your own benefit. Same with the rangebug, there is almost no scene and you still are doing this, cws are more for fun than anything else, not really to compete.

"You accused me of rewalling, even though your own screenshot shows I didn't move my wall. After I explained that it wasn't rewalling, you made this post." Well you muted me so I had no way of reaching you. You were rather offended by the fact that I said I accused of a rewall.

"Tempest even explained and made videos showing you a similar situation, and you eventually admitted that you hadn't seen the mechanic I used before." I asked him personally for it and you can see i'm the one breaking the wall in his video. The only reason he made the video was because I asked to have someone to test it with. By the way, he ended up saying it was a "self-serbwall", which would in fact not be legal (he said it!).

"Instead of thanking me for teaching you a new move, you created this drama." Yeah thank you Pavle for teaching me to do a sketchy mechanic. Didn't thank you before. The drama is because I could not fucking reach you for more questions. Oh, and even then I would still have made the post because this doesn't sit right with me.

"If you played more CWs and less 1k gambling, you might have learned about the Huarck wall sooner." Don't think so, because by the time I played a lot of 1k duels was at the season with 3 CWs played all season. Oh, and I still cw'ed whenever I could, Refering to last season where there was some activity after all. Oh, and I wouldn't have learnt about the Huarckwall because you are the only fucking person in this game who does it (And still plays). Maybe someone did it in the past and still plays but they no longer do it.

"I responded in good faith to explain my stance on the mechanic's legality because you asked me to." I would have been surprised if you would have been against the mechanic's legality. Your stance was clear when u did it in a CW. This post was more for asking general opinions, and showing the evidence.

"I don't understand why you're maintaining this hostility toward me, but feel free to continue your witch-hunt and boycott if that's what makes you happy." zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

ps: U edited ur post zzz, I won't answer any of your bullcrap again. For me this issue is done, and you are defending the indefendable.

Napisano przez Palmitas, 12.10.2024 at 15:26

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I'm not sure why you're trying to create conflict here. I simply responded to your comments in your post. I am playing to win, and wanted to give you a clear reply regarding what you should and shouldn't expect from me in cw. When I say I play to win, I want to highlight that it does not mean I would not give a tie to a clan over sincere connection problems or similiar issues. I also clearly stated that I don't approve of wf t1, rewall, or serbwall, but I do use and approve of the Huarck wall when used against me. We never even spoke about not allowing the use of huarck wall before. I myself have been farmed by huarck using his own huarck wall. I even malded at him at first, we all have weak moments and decide to give in to anger and rage. I moved on and learnt the move myself.

I have no interest in arguing with you. You're free to boycott CWs with me if you wish, but consider whether it's smart or justified. The competitive scene survives thanks to just 10 active players, and your reason for boycotting seems to be that you lost. You accused me of rewalling, even though your own screenshot shows I didn't move my wall. After I explained that it wasn't rewalling, you made this post. Tempest even explained and made videos showing you a similar situation, and you eventually admitted that you hadn't seen the mechanic I used before. Instead of thanking me for teaching you a new move, you started the drama.
Ultimately, this issue arose from your own lack of familiarity with the certain game mechanic. If you played more CWs and less 1k gambling, you might have learned about the Huarck wall sooner. I responded in good faith to explain my stance on the mechanic's legality because you asked me to.

I don't understand why you're maintaining this hostility toward me, but feel free to continue your witch-hunt and boycott if that's what makes you happy.

Few useful links regarding all this useless and unnecessary drama:
[2022] CW Season Rules
Common Courtesy Guidelines 2.0
Do we seriously have to do this, again? (Khau-WD Drama and Dave's reply)

P.S And really, comparing browser-based game drama to rape?

For casual games, I like having multiple allies, and believe in the standard ally cap(3). Not everyone bothers reading PMs, but when playing with several allies who do, I can coordinate plans, which is rather fun.

I'm not sure if more than 3 is really necessary. I haven't played many games with more than 3 allowed, but I feel like 4+ allies is usually excessive. After you have 3 allies, maybe people would want to join you, but unless there's a single massive player or another coalition, I'm not convinced that you would usually want them to join you.

I think that the standard 3 allies might be sufficient in most cases. There may be some massive custom maps where you would want to have lots of players, in which case more is perhaps warranted.

Given that in the early game, many/most players end up loosing/leaving, and in the mid game, you're probably down to under 10 players already(and the end game is probably down to 2 or 6), I see no point in having more than 3 alliances. I suppose that if 1 very good player(or perhaps a player who got extremely lucky) ends up dominating the map, a large coalition of average/less lucky players could have reason to form, but it otherwise sounds pointless.

Objectively speaking, if you ignore a few exceptions, if you are going for an ally cap of 4+, why not simply play a team game?


Regarding lower ally caps: I don't believe in them, since in casual games, people time out rather often, and then you have an unbalanced game, meaning an alliance is sometimes the only way to rebalance the game. I also think it's acceptable for a few less experienced players to ally against a higher ranked one(though I wouldn't say that if everyone in the game was reasonably high ranked or at least very good).

O.ç huarck stole my 40 elo with that inbred rewall

Will do anything to get his supporter badge #TEMP4SUPPORTER

Hey welcome to atWar! Sorry to hear that you are having trouble, for the red-zones, I would make sure that you don't have the "no-go" option selected. Then I would make sure that the air units you are using are not locked behind upgrades (the ones you unlock with SP).

I will be help you more if you publish your map and provide me with the name

Napisano przez Oleg, 12.10.2024 at 14:36

I give you green light to do this against me.
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As GF said, Huarck used to do huarckwall for years, and would still do it if he was active. He is not the only one, I am using them aswell. I am not the only one either.

Ok, I will start to rewall WF t1 and serbwall, anyways I give the greenlight for everyone to do it aswell !



Regarding the Dave statement from over 2 years ago, I will quote him." I'm just talking in general that we shouldn't have rules about walls to begin with." So, by this statement, this should mean that rewall serbwall and wf t1 shouldn't be illegal in his opinion. Just keep that in mind.



and as for the final statement, I find it similar to what I told Evqze today. https://prnt.sc/UBmQxHsTrMhN



By the way, Belligerent won't cw against you any longer. This tactic is sketchy as fuck, and we don't want to cw against someone that does this. This shouldn't be a problem to Prestige anyways since they are the most active clan in the game.



Ps: I find it disgusting that the head supporter is doing this sort of gray area things. Even more so when u come of a 1 month ban for abusing a range bug. IMO it should have been permanent, and even more so I completly disagree on the fact that you somehow kept your position. But that's not up to me, that's on Dave probably.

Napisano przez Frieren, 12.10.2024 at 14:56

Oh i see why range bug is legal now, time to abuse because i dont have to do anything with the console or code

The range bug should be fixed urgently as it is easy to replicate but for a person who doesn't have time to look at the battle screen or doesn't know about these things, it is an unfair advantage.
I personally would rather do my turn than spend 2 minutes on the battle screen.

I think that at this point every game should be recorded, it's impossible to know if someone did something intentionally or not, I could say that I didn't want that wall but deep down, I know that I did it to gain an unfair advantage. Not everyone reads the rules or knows about these things.

Casual Saturday #10 - The Imperial's GoT Remastered
Westeros only - Default settings
https://atwar-game.com/games/?link=8318362574

Napisano przez Oleg, 12.10.2024 at 14:36

I give you green light to do this against me.
I will do everything legal to win the game, as long as it is not: serb wall, rewall, t1 wf.
Always have that in premise when playing against me.
Aside from that, I am not going to defend myself - I did not do anything we consider wrong there. As for legality of the huarck wall, I will quote Dave:

Napisano przez Dave, 20.03.2022 at 21:47

As far as game mechanics goes.... if the game lets you do it, it's legal. (I mean if it lets you without opening your browser console or hacking code -- that's different, obviously.)

We agreed even during the previous ownership of the game that we do not allow rewall, serbwall, wf t1 in cw. As GF said, Huarck used to do huarckwall for years, and would still do it if he was active. He is not the only one, I am using them aswell. I am not the only one either.

Oh i see why range bug is legal now, time to abuse because i dont have to do anything with the console or code

I give you green light to do this against me.
I will do everything legal to win the game, as long as it is not: serb wall, rewall, t1 wf.
Always have that in premise when playing against me.
Aside from that, I am not going to defend myself - I did not do anything we consider wrong there. As for legality of the huarck wall, I will quote Dave:

Napisano przez Dave, 20.03.2022 at 21:47

As far as game mechanics goes.... if the game lets you do it, it's legal. (I mean if it lets you without opening your browser console or hacking code -- that's different, obviously.)

We're not going to make any new rules about walls. I don't want to get into the business of judging whether one end is a few pixels too far, blah blah blah. Rewalls, serbwalls, wallfucks t1 -- so what. That's just the nature of the game.

...And for the record it's pretty clear WD didn't do anything wrong here, I'm just talking in general that we shouldn't have rules about walls to begin with. Then we wouldn't have these stupid arguments.

We agreed even during the previous ownership of the game that we do not allow rewall, serbwall, wf t1 in cw. As GF said, Huarck used to do huarckwall for years, and would still do it if he was active. He is not the only one, I am using them aswell. I am not the only one either.

I like the idea, I will forward it to Dave.

P.S Spam sascha to move this to ideas forum